Hi, I don't know if there’s been a similar post here or how appropriate this is, but I’d like to share my opinion on AI.

Recent news about mass layoffs in IT, manufacturing, and the service sector, driven by automation and AI, made me wonder: where is the world heading if wesimply let this process continue unchecked?

We live under capitalism, where the economy is largely based on people exchanging the results of their labor. one person produces a good or provides a service, earns money, and uses that money to pay for the work of others. money replaced direct barter and made this exchange much more convenient.

But what happens when human labor is gradually replaced by machines?

For a company owner, automation is extremely attractive. A robot does not need a salary, paid leave, sick days, or a human resources department. It can work around the clock, potentially lowering production costs and increasing profits.

For now, someone who loses their job can still move into another field. But what happens when automation affects most professions? The argument that “new technologies have always created new jobs” does not seem entirely convincing to me.

A calculator, a machine, or a car mostly helped people perform their work more efficiently. Modern AI and robotics are increasingly different. They do not merely assist workers, but directly compete with them and replace them. Robots are becoming capable of interacting with the physical world and performing increasingly complex tasks.

Consider a small society of three people. One catches fish, another make clothes materials, and the third builds houses. Each person specializes in a different kind of work, and they exchange the results. Money acts as an intermediary. The fisher sells fish, earns money, and buys a house. The builder buys clothes, and the person making clothes buys fish.

Now imagine that each of them owns a robot capable of doing their entire job. One robot catches fish, another builds houses, and the third produces clothes. Technically, these people can still trade with one another. But where does their money come from?

If the robots are privately owned, the three people can sell their products to one another. However, the society will quickly become oversaturated. One person does not need thousands of houses, tons of fish, or an endless supply of clothes. Production becomes easy, but there may not be enough people with the income or desire to buy everything being produced.

Now imagine that all three robots belong to one company. That company receives most of the income because it owns the automated production system. The other people lose their wages and can no longer afford to buy the products. The company can produce more than ever, but by replacing its workers, it also destroys the purchasing power needed to sell those products.

This is already visible in smaller ways. Self-checkout machines allow stores to serve roughly the same number of customers with one or two employees instead of ten. The others have to look for different jobs. But what happens when those jobs are automated too?

Some people propose a universal basic income funded by taxes on corporations or automated systems. But why would company owners voluntarily agree to support people who have become economically “unnecessary”? Who would force them to pay those taxes? And what would society look like if most people were no longer needed as workers but were still needed as consumers?

I do not think the main problem is technology itself. The problem is trying to fit rapidly advancing technology into an economic system built around human labor and wages.

If labor stops being the main way people receive money and access resources, capitalism in its current form may face a serious crisis.

So what do you think will happen? Will we develop a new economic system, introduce some form of universal basic income, or will automation simply lead to even greater inequality and concentration of power among the owners of technology?

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[–] 14 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Here's what the people making AI and running businesses think:

They don't care about us. We are on our own, as far as they're concerned. We will have to figure it out ourselves. If we can't figure it out, because they've already stolen everything that isn't nailed down, that sounds like something that is our problem, not their problem.

Because you see, they don't have a problem. Their plan is: defend and isolate themselves from anything we could conceivably do to them. They will have their own robots, their own factories and farms, their own defenses, their own machine-operated pleasure-palace-fortresses, their own safe transportation (by air or orbit if necessary). They have acquired enough capital that they seem to think they can start to arrange this scenario for themselves without needing much additional capital/labor from the rest of us peasants. And that's why they've stopped caring about what we think, or what we buy, or what we do. They don't need to anymore.

What happens next is not necessarily nefarious as much as it is completely apathetic. They honestly don't care about us. They don't care what happens to us. They don't care if we starve. They don't care if the world outside their compounds turns into Max Max, or a firey inferno in between constant floods and droughts. They don't care if we're fighting each other, drone-striking each other, freezing to death in the cold and darkness, choking on smoke and cancer. They don't care. They will not give a shit. They are protected from it, that is their goal and their intention. They will be fine, and they will dismiss all the rest of us as cruel, criminals, barbarians and savages, and they will believe it is right and probably a good thing that we are fighting and starving and dying and killing each other, because of course we are, because we're horrible violent people. They will only need to look at all the fighting and rioting and chaos to confirm their assessment of us. They don't have empathy for us and they don't need it. They've already got theirs, and it's now our time to fuck off (and die). They're not even going to bother doing anything to us. They're going to let us do it to each other, while they ignore and avoid us like the plague they already think we are.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    Because they genuinely believe in their own superiority and greatness over ordinary people, I’m more than certain they truly see themselves as being ahead of the rest of the planet and think about how great they are, without ever stopping to consider the consequences for themselves.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago

    Some of them, maybe many, probably will even think they're "saving" the planet by getting rid of the "excess overpopulation". They do not value human lives or human experiences outside their own personal sphere, and I do not think they think those human lives and experiences are worth preserving.

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