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[–] 15 points 2 days ago* (9 children)

Do you think the West invented all their solar panel tech? China is lightyears ahead.

Talking about stealing knowledge while current top Western tech is knowledge theft running on a GPU is peak cope.

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  • [–] -1 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

    No the French invented photovoltaics. Then it was an American who made the first commercial solar panel and Bell labs of the US made the modern solar panel design that we use today. China has been involved in development along the way, but they didn't start things. Their biggest contribution has been making them cheap and affordable.

    China has had plenty of innovations that are incredible. Sodium Ion battery technology is largely a Chinese development with others contributing. There are plenty of things that China has made and they should be proud of. They also steal other's ideas and try to pull a "I made this" meme. That doesn't mean they are unique in this manner, though.

    American AI companies are thieves, too. The entirety of AI development is bullshit made on the back of human innovation. It's an abomination. Multiple things can be true. You clearly have an agenda with your whataboutism arguments

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago*

    The notion that China, or the US, or really anybody is committing theft by utilizing technological innovations, is what should be being discussed here. Individual innovations themselves were never made in a vacuum. Design, or information at large, is not something that can be privately owned. We have patents to give the right to seek super profits to the lucky individual that invents a new tech/process. An immensely lucky individual, who may or may not have actually done the labor to make the patent but is nonetheless the owner of the slip of paper, was born to live with enough resources, in the right places, and born before it was already invented, of course. The innovations that we enjoy today are a result of countless nameless people tinkering and improving, not just a few brilliantly outstanding inventors, who then somehow are a result of the success of a whole nation.

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago* (2 children)

    Do you think discovering the principle of something is the same as refining and mass producing it? In that case, plants beat France.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago (1 child)

    I think that all of the steps in development are important. The French discovered photovoltaics. The US produced the first commercial panel and created the modern panel. China has made panels a commodity, refined the process for producing them, and is the largest producer of solar panels in the world.

    All of these things have merit.

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago* (3 children)

    Do you think the only thing China has done is make them cheap?

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago (2 children)

    No and I never said that. I said it was their largest contribution to the technology, although I'm open to a rebuttle of information, if you have evidence to the contrary. I'm hardly an expert, but I know a good amount of solar panel history.

    Maybe try not being so fucking presumptuous and hostile to everyone that presents something you don't like.

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago* (1 child)

    In 2025 a Chinese company broke records with its innovations in perovskite-silicon tandem solar panels.

    The idea that Asians are only good at making things cheap is more Orientalism. Maybe try to not be so fucking racist?

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  • [–] -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

    That's it. Keep repeating I'm a racist. I'm sure eventually if you spew that enough it'll become true.

    Also, perovskite-silicon tandem solar panels haven't been proven out yet outside of a lab. Looks like a promising technology, but it has high degradation compared to panels we already have and is difficult to mass manufacture still. It may become the future of solar panels. And it might not. Neat tech either way and the Chinese scientists that invented it should be proud either way.

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