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[–] 47 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Polling companies assume (note that I didn't say "find in their results") that a very large portion of centrist voters will not back Melenchon in the second round. Pollsters almost never use raw data, and add weights, but the way they do this with Melenchon is not backed by the data: in the second round of parliamentary elections, when it was a two-way-race between a candidate from La France Insoumise (LFI, Melenchon's party), and a candidate of the Rassemblement National (RN, Le Pen's extreme-right party), a majority voted for LFI-candidates.

Furthermore, Melenchon's base is not with the people who vote in every electoin, but with people who have to be mobilised. You should check the polls for the first round of the previous 2 or 3 French presidential elections, and you'll see that he rises exponentially when he starts campaigning. The fact that he's already more or less surpassing the centrist candidates for second place in the first round, is very hopefull as this is happening much earlier than in previous elections.

Lastly, Melenchon is rethorically the strongest politician in the Global North, that is not hypeverbally. Nobody gives a speech like him, or debates like him. He will destroy anyone in a one-on-one debate if he makes it to the second round.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago* (3 children)

    Lastly, Melenchon is rethorically the strongest politician in the Global North, that is not hypeverbally. Nobody gives a speech like him, or debates like him. He will destroy anyone in a one-on-one debate if he makes it to the second round.

    I have to say, and maybe my French is just really shit, but so does LePenn. I really feel like this is her election to lose and the material and political conditions, esp in a pillar of the Western metropole, point towards her winning decisively. Out of all frontmen in this axis of neo-fash, she’s quite honestly the most fitting one for the moment if we’re being realistic.

    Don’t get me wrong, it’d be good if Melenchon took power, but LePenn is a pretty non-shit candidate of the bourgeoise parties to go up against.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    I really feel like this is her election to lose and the material and political conditions, esp in a pillar of the Western metropole, point towards her winning decisively.

    I do not disagree with this at all, especially given the fact that all the press will be in favour of her and opposed to Melenchon.

    On top of that, I do really wonder if there will be electoral fraud and even if there has been electoral fraud in the past: 1.2% to 1.7% too little in the first round, in 2017 and 2022, respectively, after having all the momentum, I'm not about that. Especially given that even during the American primaries there was electoral fraud to stop Bernie Sanders (admitted by the head of the DNC at the time, Donna Brazil, in her book; and defended by the DNC in court because "a private organisation isn't expected to provide a fair election in the same way as a government, it choose how to operate").

    I also know for a fact that in Belgium, small electoral fraud took place to take away one regional parliamentary seat from PTB and give it to PS. This is beyond doubt. Has it happened more? Who knows, the party doesn't have electoral observers in all voting stations.

    Melenchon is much more radical than Bernie Sanders, and France is much more important than Belgium...

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