Assembly Bill 2164 authored by Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) would have prohibited California’s governor from recognizing a request for extradition of a person related to their providing a legally protected healthcare activity in the Golden State to transgender individuals, or if they provide reproductive services. It provided certain exemptions, such as an extradition required by federal law.

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[–] 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

There are a lot of people like hoppeduponcoffee who are being ostracized by both the Democrats and Republicans. Both parties are effectively communicating, "we don't need your votes to win", so it shouldn't be surprising when those ostracized groups take that message to heart.

These groups have very clearly communicated what it would take to get their support, so why isn't the Democratic party listening? It's not like they are asking for much. Protect queer rights. Stop funding genocide. Spend money on improving living conditions. It seems like it would be much easier to change the positions of a couple politicians than it would to convince millions of voters to go against their conscience.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Yeah that's when harm reduction should kick in with strategic voting but y'all seem hell-bent on accelerationism. You'd actively rather enable the worse option than practice harm reduction. Y'all ain't allies. Y'all just privileged.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    I don't think that analysis of why Establishment Dems keep losing is advocacy for accelerationism. Most of the people who sit out of elections are not the kinds of people to post on the internet in political threads. If we want to reach the people on the who have become politically apathetic, the most effective method would be a top-down approach where the politicians and leadership change their positions and how they advertise the party.

    We already know why these people don't vote. Yelling at them to vote hasn't worked for a decade, so we should try something else.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 days ago

    There literally is no other realistic option to take power without tea partying the Dems left. That's literally the only option that doesn't involve the nazis killing a fuckload more people. Anyone that doesn't understand this may as well be a fuckin MAGAt.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Fundamentally, I agree with that. Fundamentally, I am exactly on board with everything you and they have said. And fundamentally, that is not the hand that has been dealt in that situation.

    Third parties cannot win a Presidential election in the US as the system currently stands. So, voting for a third party is either a nonvote or a vote for the defacto winner. Advocating for a third party candidate because your candidate lost the primaries is loser behavior. Because you cannot have your way, you're going home. And if that decision fucks over the very people you are pretending to protect, then you should feel just as culpable for that as anyone that did vote for that.

    Fucking like it or not, trans people would be better under Newsom than any Republican. Fucking Kamala Harris did jackshit to defend trans kids, but she wouldn't be actively trying to harm them right now as President.

    It is disgusting to me to pretend that not voting or voting third party is somehow stopping genocide or protecting queer people. It just isn't. All it does is make you feel better.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago

    Yeah, hopefully we can do enough to change the Democratic Party so that they stop hemorrhaging voters. If we get to the 2028 presidential election and the Dem candidate is another neoliberal like Newsom, we're probably cooked. The past decade has shown that voters have become apathetic to the threat of, "Vote Dem or else you get the Republican", so hopefully, the Democratic Party doesn't run that losing strategy again.

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