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[–] 25 points 6 days ago (41 children)

Europeans making lists of "undesirables" I am shocked /s.

Something something first as tragedy second as farce.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

    It was one of George Orwell's favorite hobbies, after all.

    In 1949, shortly before he died, English author George Orwell prepared a list of notable writers and other people he considered to be unsuitable as possible writers for the anti-communist propaganda activities of the Information Research Department, a secret propaganda organisation of the British state under the Foreign Office. A copy of the list was published in The Guardian in 2003 and the original was released by the Foreign Office soon after.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Well what else was he supposed to do with all that free time between writing his mediocre books and being a sex pest.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Europeans making lists of “undesirables” I am shocked /s.

    Yeah, it's surprisingly catchy in activity. Try to name your son Mohamed in Xinjiang.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Try to name your son Mohamed in Xinjiang.

    I know a few. This insinuation really falls on its face when you have experience with Xinjiang beyond the atrocity propaganda.

    Also is this the famous whataboutism I hear people crying about so often?

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    I know a few.

    https://www.xinjiang.gov.cn/xinjiang/gfxwj/201606/fb68e69086f742b8bbd76c6a85d7160f.shtml?eqid=8189612e000287340000000264784761

    How can I tell you don't. Policy asking for list of religious names to be given to public security beuaruo, to be used to reject names of newborn children. Can't have more Chinese source.

    Also is this the famous whataboutism I hear people crying about so often?

    Well, you started by calling Europeans nazis. And that now you cry whataboutism tells me you did not mean the first /s.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago

    That policy is about standardising the transliteration and data entry of names? I still know more than one person who self identifies as Mohammed(穆罕默德) [Surname]. So I'm simply going to take them at their word. Also interesting you picked out specifically the security bureau and avoided the fact it was a list terms compiled by religious leaders and others for all relevant agencies including health, family planning and more.

    Whataboutism isn't real it's simply fun to poke fun at the people who use accusations of "whataboutism" as a shield to avoid comparative arguments by asking about it in that manner when the opportunity presents itself.

    I also didn't start by calling Europeans Nazis I started by making a joke about Europeans making lists of undesirables, the Nazis is only one instance of that long held tradition (especially if you want to count EuroAmerikans and their escapades during and after WW2, McCarthyism, etc). Also I very much meant the /s I am not shocked at all by it.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 6 days ago (30 children)
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    I'm sure PET will appreciate you focusing on the real enemy: leftists online. They will be so happy they only kick you twice in the face before contorting your body in a fucked up position for a couple of hours. You might even sue them in the human rights Court, as they are every week. You have to provide your own lawyer though.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago* (27 children)

    Thank you for the notification obergruppenfuhrer I look forward to your attempt to extradite me from China for the crime of being Chinese.

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 6 days ago (26 children)

    obergruppenfuhrer?

    how does scribbling down a name warrant a comparison to Nazi Germany?

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  • [–] 17 points 6 days ago (25 children)

    You don't see how making lists of "undesirables" to enact "justice" upon is reminiscent?

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  • [+] -9 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    You don’t see how making lists of “undesirables” to enact “justice” upon is reminiscent?

    The irony of a Chinese person making this statement is sending me.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    Not particularly ironic if you're not an orientalist. I hope it "sends" you into some introspection and research.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

    I know you tankies love to pretend otherwise in order to paint any criticism of your flavor of authoritarianism as racism, but:

    CCP ≠ China ≠ the Chinese people

    Is it possible GreenBeard was being racist? Definitely. But to jump to that because they appear to be criticizing the CCP is... transparently ridiculous.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    The irony of a Chinese person making this statement is sending me.

    Could you please point me to where they say anything about the CPC?

    Would it be ironic if you said you were against pedophilia if you were/are American?

    Very obviously a knee jerk racist remark but you hate China so obviously you need to play devils advocate and try act like it's something it's not.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago

    It's simply the context of the thread; we're discussing problems with governments, not races/ethnicities.

    Unless of course by this

    Europeans making lists of “undesirables” I am shocked /s.

    you meant to be Occidentalist, at which point you're just the pot calling the kettle racist.

    Seems like you accidentally showed your hand here.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 6 days ago (15 children)

    Bro.

    I haven't written anything down. You made your own post history in a lemmy instance known for being pro-Russia/anti-Ukraine.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago (14 children)

    how does scribbling down a name warrant a comparison to Nazi Germany?

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  • [+] [S] -13 points 6 days ago (13 children)

    How does it? Simple journalism.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago (12 children)

    You don’t see how making lists of “undesirables” to enact “justice” upon is reminiscent?

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 6 days ago (11 children)

    "undesirable" and "enact "justice"" are words/phrases you introduced.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 days ago (10 children)

    Did you not read the image you posted? Or are you doing the famous dog whistle I've heard so much about so you're going to play dumb to the obvious implication and history?

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 6 days ago (9 children)

    My understanding of Kraut's vision, and the one I will tell you now is mine, is that pro-Putinists should very well be barred from high level positions in defense and security.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    Ok so you find "pro putinists" undesirable and you wish to put together a list so that you can do "the right thing" and bar them from certain positions?

    So to put it very briefly you want to put together a list of "undesirables" and enact "justice"/consequences upon them?

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  • [+] [S] -9 points 6 days ago (7 children)

    Stop putting words in my mouth.

    Many positions require background checks. If you have a history of violence or other extreme views, you cannot work in certain positions. Fair. Supporting an aggressive nation is a view that should bar you from certain positions.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Bro your post essentially argues to blanket list everyone from a community as having X arbitrary opinions you came up with, and to use this list to limit these peoples' movements through society. Also that last sentence is a load of bullshit when we're all having to live with the US (and Israel) doing whatever the fuck it wants with the world while nobody does shit about it.

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  • [+] [S] -8 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Saying that all .ml users should be exempt from working in the military is a joke. I thought that was clear from the instance we I posted on.

    Saying that all people who support or are friendly towards an aggressive nation, should not be allowed into sectors that are meant to counter said aggressive nation, is not a joke.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    I'm not putting words in your mouth. You can put all the flowery language on it you like but what you are saying at its core is that you want there to be a list made of people you believe to be "pro putinist" (a vague nonsense label just like how many other people on Lemmy like calling anyone who disagrees with them a bot or shill) as you find them undesirable and that they should face consequences.

    If you don't like how that sounds instead of lashing out you should introspect and really get to the core of what lead you to advocating for this without facing the core of the idea.

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  • [+] [S] -13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    No you're wrong.

    But perhaps, you are right that we shouldn't make lists. We'll just check your social media, lemmy/reddit/twitter and see what you wrote there. YOU will write the lists. It is what happens already in work places. Crisis of morality averted 😂

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