submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by to c/slop@hexbear.net
 

I really need to stop trying to engage with these folks.

e: https://lemmy.ml/post/52843922/27877933

If you want to go see the depths of this dork's ideology.

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[–] 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It isn't that 'freedom means something different in books'.

When a capitalist talks about freedom, they are talking about their freedom to oppress you, cheat you, and subject you to longer working hours in worse conditions. When a working class person talks about freedom, they mean actually getting a say in how work is done, being able to negotiate their pay, how many hours they work etc.

You can't have both.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yes, that needs to be communicated though and that is my point because it isn’t communicated as well as it could be.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago*

    I think it is communicated well, ideologically, though. The issue is one of reach and saturation. A material deficit of media saturation.

    What we are saying is intuitive to working class people. It is communicated this way whenever a communist is included in the conversation. How often are we actually included in those conversations though?

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