I know that I can simply make my own private certificate authority that only I and my family trust. But is there some public provider like letsencrypt that is in a free-er part of the world than the US?

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[–] 112 points 1 week ago (16 children)

There are some commercial Certificate Authorities that offer free certificates. But in contrast Let's Encrypt is a non-profit.

  • ZeroSSL (Austria)
  • Actalis (Italy)
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  • [–] 21 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    commercial

    free certificates

    How do they make money?

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  • [–] 36 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    Usually they make money with extended certificates where they not only offer a certificate for example.com but also certify that it belongs to Example Ltd.

    Those extended certificates used to show the company name next to address bars, but I don't think browsers do that anymore.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    a certificate for example.com

    also certify that it belongs to Example Ltd.

    I thought that was the whole point of a certificate, to show that the website belongs to the company? Or nah?

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  • [–] 12 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    It's actually to prove that a web server belongs to (or is trusted by for delivering their content) a specific website.

    qualified certificates go a step further, by proving that a web server belongs to a specific company or a real person. but that's costly, because verification is inherently more difficult.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    Also the controlling party in Italy is practically neo-fascist and Austria is also sliding there again with their Nazi party like AfD in Germany and VB in Belgium getting a huge portion of votes.

    I don't see how it is that much better than a US non- profit.

    I think the core thing is that you have to know of a bunch of different CA options and switch when necessary or on a compromised CA.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Both Italy and Austria are EU member states , fall under the GDPR AND NIS2 and while both government(even under the FPÖ) have their downsides neither has legislation that is even remotely close to what the US even have today (and had for decades) and unlike the US both countries still have a very well working judical system and the ECJ.

    So. Yes. While not perfect, their situation is massively better than a US non for profit. Total different league. Not even in the same ballpark.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago

    It is. Most EU countries build on a strong legal system of separation of powers etc. that makes it hard to dismantle democracy with the alacrity MAGA is currently doing it in the USA.

    But nevertheless, we're all aware of the rise of fascism in Europe and are extremely worried.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 days ago*

    The thing is, the US is already fascist. Austria (current day) would be an improvement.

    Also, you know the downfall of Autistici/Inventati - No - check my post history. One of the events that happened is that US owned PIR removed one of the domain names since they own .org. One less US entity, one less point of failure.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    ZeroSSL is probably what OP is looking for

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