cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/52022727

Looks like everyone who raised awareness about "Mark Zuckerberg Pervert Glasses" ultimately made a real difference <3

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[–] 4 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Obligatory: you have been able to record people without consent since the 80s.

Should we shame people with phones if their phone has a microphone?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago*

    In the US that varies by state. California is "two party consent" so you need permission. If you just mean you can do it illegally, tape recorders have been around since way before the 1980s.

    In some countries the camera apps on phones are required to make a shutter noise when you take a picture so it's harder to do secretly.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    No, we shouldn't shame people for using a device that happens to have a microphone. But we absolutely should shame people who knowingly and flagrantly use recording devices with a complete disregard to other people's privacy.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago

    Honestly, I personally even barely care about the individual people who do this - that's been a thing for nearly 20 years now. Don't get me wrong - secretly filming people is creepy as fuck, and it's rightly illegal without consent in a lot of places.

    But I'm more pissed off about is that beside the individuals, it's also being saved by corporations on an unprecedented and almost inconceivable scale. But it doesn't even stop at that massive privacy invasion - that data is then used, processed and extrapolated to wring every known piece of data out of it, to make a profit for those companies. Plus, since it's stored, they will also use it in the future, in ways we haven't even considered right now.

    All of which without you knowing, or your consent. Creeps are one problem, but imho it's nothing compared to the companies that actually profit from it.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    Obligatory: you have been able to record people without consent since the 80s.

    Where? In my country (Spain) has never been prohibited in public spaces, except in recent years that record the police has been forbidden. ACAB

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago*

    Point being that you didn’t need to ask for consent before any more than now. It might be illegal, but who cares, really?

    Over here it’s legal to record any conversation you are a part of or can “reasonably hear”. So no parabolic shotgun mics allowed 😀

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