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The FBI Doubles Down on Easing ‘Bestiality’ Hiring Standards (www.wired.com)
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“Why would you even get into bestiality?” he asked. “We’re not into bestiality,” said Patel.

In a further exchange, Patel explained to Senator John Kennedy, the Louisiana Republican, that previously, regulations had barred anyone who engaged in bestiality “on either side of it.”

“Either side of what, the bestiality?” asked Kennedy. “So you disqualified the animal?”

“We have great canines, but we’re not going to disqualify them,” said Patel.

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[–] 64 points 4 weeks ago (22 children)

The answer he was getting to is just as crazy. There were so many trafficked victims who were also forced into beastiality that ALSO want to be in the FBI there grew a need to update the policy. Like....what?

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  • [–] 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    He can't give out FBI jobs to his fraternity alumni because they all had to fuck a pig as part of the initiation.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah, they could have let victims in without letting abusers in, by simply adding the word "willingly". They did it this way though, specifically so they could let in the abusers for the reich they have planned.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    The applicant pool is so narrow we had to consider this limitation. It's sad applicants may have been forced to perform those acts either way though.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Another comment connected dots for me, and consistent with: 'No more walking on eggshells': Hegseth vows to lift guardrails on military hazing, harassment

    This is the pro-hazing administration, and maybe animal raping is part of some of their 'good old boy' hazing?

    Obviously not sure, but it's at least a theory that has some rationale that otherwise seems impossibly pointless to change.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I actually don't find it far fetched that people who were victimized may themselves want to prevent that from happening to others.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Me either, just that this specific item is so prevelant that we are having a public conversation around it. But also...I would have bias if this was my story which should preclude me from service. There is a specific person(s) that was part of the mass hiring recently that makes this current news is my guess. There is a name here.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

    If a woman who was forced into it by a gang wants to join the FBI to take these people down to keep other girls and women from having the same fate, why would you deny her?

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  • [–] 32 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Under the law, we do not criminalize or hold people to actions taken under duress. You can keep the policy and just qualify the action to having been done willfully. You don't need to allow abusers in to open the door for victims.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Ok? Do you not understand the policy change? You are under the impression that willful beastiality is now allowed in the FBI? If you believe that, why do you believe that? Are you ok with having unreliable information?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    He just said that the policy disallowed the fucking dogs who had been victimized. Are you expecting sensibility on these policies? Are you for real?

    Yes I believe 1000% that whatever stupid excuse he gave for this policy change, it will be used primarily to put more unqualified, criminal, deviants into positions of federal authority. That seems to be this administration's bread and butter. Look at ICE, look at several of Trumps cabinet picks and AG picks apart from his own adjudication for rape and association with Epstein. Do you think that the Patel FBI who protects Trump and all the other Epstein abusers has high moral standards for the quality of its hirees? Come on.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago

    Dude, don't live your life like this. Stop believing every hyperbolic headline the media comes up with. The original policy was dumb and it's been corrected. Victims of coercion should not be disqualified from the FBI because the question being asked isn't nuanced enough.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Because that's a strawman argument & doesn't happen in reality.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    You seem to know so much about it, are you an FBI recruiter or do you work with victims of human trafficking? Because unless you've done at least one of those things, I can't see how you would have any knowledge from which to make such an assertion.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (3 children)

    Giving fascists the benefit of the doubt is stupid & I refuse to do so. If Kash Patel told me the fucking sky was blue, I'd go outside to check.

    So no, I don't fucking believe them, and you shouldn't either if you have more than two braincells to rub together. What I do know is there is at least one white supremacist group & one really nasty college club that are both reported to use bestiality as initiation rites to use the threat of blackmail to maintain control over their members. The only victims here in those cases are the animals.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago

    I wouldn't say the point of my comment was to give fascists the benefit of the doubt; moreso to question the credibility of your confident assertion that victims of human trafficking who have been forced into degrading acts such as bestiality never ever apply to join the FBI.

    Keep in mind that these sorts of oversight committees set something called precedent, which means the results of the hearing will continue to have consequences even after the fascist administration is over and gone.

    If they need to adjust the verbiage to narrow it to an exception for precise circumstances, that's one thing. It doesn't need to be viewed as "either it's always allowed or it never is." There's an entire category of stuff that could be "potentially disqualifying" but situation-dependent and can be granted waivers on a case-by-case basis. This could potentially be one of those things.

    But erasing the struggles of human trafficking victims by saying "that never happens" without any actual knowledge of the circumstances, is not the correct response to fascism. Bite me if I'm wrong.

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