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[–] 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It's an unpopular take ... they said it up front.

The term "average" is you adding words to the original comment that weren't there to begin with. At best "average" is too subjective and nebulous to be meaningful without you providing a very clear definition of your intended context, at worst, it's loaded terminology.

I don't want to imply that I know specifically what that person meant by over-consumption regarding housing and transport, however, it could easily be applied to situations like ...

~ The trend in some parts of the world to build ever larger houses despite people having smaller families / fewer children.

~ People choosing to live alone, even when they have other options available like living with family or having roommates (as per the image).

~ People living alone in general, but choosing bigger homes with multiple rooms / bathrooms that were intended for families and people with roommates, leaving the additional space / room largely unused.

For transportation, the overconsumption side of that is often based on the argument that people are buying vehicles when they don't need one, buying larger and less efficient vehicles than they should, driving solo instead of carpooling, or avoiding taking public transport when it's available. Specifically the argument about moving closer to work in relation to over-consumption is, and I'm guessing here, addressed more at people who choose to live further away from work for reasons like "they don't like that part of town" or because they'd rather drive than take public transport / walk.

In the USA, for instance, there has traditionally been a very heavy stigma against "poor people", and so for a certain percentage of people who actually are poor or very close to it, over-consumption is a mechanism they will employ to mask their economic status. For example, wearing designer clothes or at least knock-offs, buying a new expensive vehicle they can't really afford, moving to a more expensive neighborhood for appearance, driving to work instead of using public transportation or walking, etc.

Obviously we can all cherry pick anecdotes where these things don't apply and it's easy to assume that how things are where I live are the same all over everywhere even though that's not the case, so keep that in mind.

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  • [–] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 child)

    "Unpopular take: all black people should be slaves." Preceding a statement with "unpopular take" doesn't insulate the statement from inspection or critique. "Unpopular" is a measure of popularity, not validity and I was questioning the validity of their statement.

    Yes, I added average because "average" is the only way to make sense of their vague talk. Who would the subject be if not younger generations when they talked about previous generations normalizing over-consumption. Who is exhibiting these normalized, ove-consumptive behaviors if not some average, representative sample of the younger generation? If they were making a statement about and to some narrow band of western, upper-middleclass white person, they should claim that.

    Obviously we can all cherry pick anecdotes where these things don't apply and it's easy to assume that how things are where I live are the same all over everywhere even though that's not the case, so keep that in mind.

    No one has made any citation of statistics or data, and I'm the one asking for clarification of dubiously-valid claims. So you and the previous commenter are the only ones providing (or, in the other commenter's case, hinting at) some cherry-picked anecdotes about the consumption habits of these still-undefined subjects who are habitually over-consuming their way to poverty.

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  • [–] -3 points 17 hours ago

    So I can clearly tell you don't take criticism well at all. All I can say is jumping further down the well of logical fallacy doesn't actually clarify what you meant by average, and really only suggests that you did intend for it to be loaded. No point in spending any time further, other than I hope people reading see through your charade.

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