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[–] 2 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Do you have enough guns to fight the US military? No? Well neither do I.

Which is why there are steps that must be followed. And right now those are peaceful protest and voting. Making sure everyone votes.

The time for violence is likely coming, but it has to be after the election. After Trump blatantly ignores the will of the people.

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  • [–] 3 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

    The violence in the street is already happening. The violence in the courtrooms is already happening. The violence in universities is already happening. The violence in the legislative chambers is already happening. The violence at the homes of resistant politicians is already happening. Roll over, if you must.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

    You sweet summer child, you think you know what violence is. You most certainly do not.

    No revolution has ever succeeded without the aid of the military. If the left kicks of the violent resistance too early, the military will not side with us, and in fact will join in the hunting us down part of things.

    That's why we have to follow specific steps. First is peaceful protest. Second is voting.

    Third is violence. And if we get steps one and two right, we might not have our homes bombed as we sleep.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    You're thinking on the right track, but honestly they already replaced all the top brass with stooges and forced most of the officer who had principles to resign. I would not count on the military intervening if trump declares himself emperor for life.

    We still need to vote, of course. But if he ignores the results, or if they fuck with the elections too hard to ignore, don't expect salvation to come from above...

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  • [–] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    Top brass doesn't matter. It's the mid ranks you have to watch for. The ones who have some power, but not enough for Trump to be able to demand full loyalty. As Vietnam showed us, when orders are unpopular, the officers start dying.

    But no, there won't be salvation from the military, honestly the best scenario is them just stepping aside.

    But if dipshits kick things off early, then they military will not stand aside. They will see it as an attack on the country and will gleefully put down "enemies of the state".

    But when Trump ignores the election results, well, there are a lot of people who are lawful neutral, or even some lawful evil, and will not support the chaos of Trump ignoring the election.

    And that's where we can win this. That and once the violence starts (after the election), the targets need to be the right ones, CEOs, billionaires, and such. Picked off in ones and twos, making none of them feel safe.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 hours ago

    Gentlemen may cry, "Peace, peace" - but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

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