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1TB model: $1,299 USD

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Power supply not included, costs $29 (same as Steam Deck power supply)

3rd party addon available for color passthrough, Arcturus Vision Camera, $149

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[–] 24 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I guess my TLDR is... Im interested in VR, but outside of Alyx, I find it hard to find games that Id actually be into. Lots of VR games feel like demos or minigames. You do have big games with VR modes, like Skyrim and No Mans Sky, but those werent made exclusively for VR.

So I guess what I’m saying is that the tech feels like it’s there, but the games aren’t there for me. Unless I’m missing something.

Plus, even the cheaper VR options are still pretty expensive. At that price I could just put the money toward a good GPU and get another 6–7 years out of a PC.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago

    I had an Index for a good couple of years and honestly the only game I ever sank a considerable amount of time into was Pokerstars VR. It was a fully realised virtual poker table with fake money that let you play with random people all over the world. The fake money and free to play model did mean you got a lot of kids (I would stop playing during the summer until they went back to school), but you also met alot of grizzled old poker players from all around. A guy who would play waiting to pick up his kid from a night shift who would tell tales from his highroller days in vegas, a nice mom in a trailer park, I once met a guy who was born in the same hospital as me but grew up halfway around the world. The game gave you something to focus on and talk about to break the ice. Even with crappy Meta avatars with just hands and head movement it was enough to make the people across the table real in a way you couldn't achieve outside of VR. Which is what eventually did it in, they let desktop users play and it just sort of became another faceless online poker game again.

    But for that brief time it did feel like how people in the 90s thought we were going to be using the internet in the future, socialising in these digital spaces instead of what we actually have were everyone is completely isolated from eachother.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    The big VR game is Beat Saber. Even the people who really like VR stuff talk about how they fiddle with a new device for a couple weeks, then only ever use it for Beat Saber after that.

    (Okay, it's not ENTIRELY Beat Saber, I also know a girl who's really into VR formula 1 racing games. But even she's suspiciously good at Beat Saber.)

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago* (3 children)

    I have a Windows MR headset I almost exclusively used for Elite Dangerous, and put probably a thousand hours into that game inside the headset alone. Then the Odyssey update didn't support VR headsets and also broke support for my Tobii head/eye tracker so I just stopped playing.

    Other than that, it's just Beat Saber.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Have you tried oasis? I don't have win11 so I haven't been able to give it a shot. Found a decent used quest pro, at least.

    https://github.com/mbucchia/Oasis-Driver-for-Windows-Mixed-Reality/wiki

    Also, half life:alyx and the many custom campaigns.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    The controllers are absolute dogshit and trying to play Alyx with WMR was such a bad experience that I stopped maybe 20 mins into the campaign.

    You'd try and aim the pistol and it would have a seizure in your hand so aiming was basically random. No finger tracking, either. Just awful.

    IMO the WMR headsets are only fair to acceptable for sim pit stuff and maybe Beat Saber on lower difficulties, and they're just unusable for anything else.

    Whomst among us doesn't have a great time when their head becomes stuck to the floor and stops tracking so you're in instant barf town?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Lol fair, tho tbh as long as I kept the lights pretty bright the only time I really had issues was with bow and arrow stuff that needed the controllers super close to your face. Loved Half Life Alyx with Samsung Odyssey plus, it was a heck of an upgrade from hp's low end wmr.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I have spent many many hours in Blade and Sorcery, esp. w/ mods. And I will spend many more.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    That seems like another cool game but again. The number of cool games like this doesnt seem thaaat high.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago*

    There are assuredly fewer, but there are quite a number of good 'uns visible on Steam alone. I've also played many small/free/indie VR games that were fun and had no issues on the Index. I probably have a couple hundred hours on Blade and Sorcery + mods, so that alone outweighs a lotta games worth for me.

    VR is assuredly a higher cost-to-fun-time ratio than not having VR, whatever the case.

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