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    Exactly.

    Celts didnt "conquer" the Beaker's.

    Beaker people are part of the ancestry that developed into Celts.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 days ago (23 children)

    I was being facetious. The Irish Brit bashing online is very tiresome. It's just bigotry.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (22 children)

    Bigotry? Have you seen the bigotry that goes on in Northern Ireland in July every single year?

    This is nothing compared to that.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (20 children)

    Whats your point?

    32% of the population of Northern Ireland identify as British only, not Irish, and they are openly hostile to anything even remotly relating to Irishness to the point that they actively campaign against things like the use of the Irish language in public spaces because they see it as a threat.

    Those people only exist in Northern Ireland because they are descendants of British colonists as a direct result of British Imperialism (which is the topic that kicked off the comment thread here) resulting in the Plantations of Ulster, the Protestant Ascendency and the displacement and discrimination of Irish people and targeted destruction of the Irish language and culture.

    And you think talking about that is bigotry?

    EDIT: Also, what do you mean Irish "Brit bashing" in this scenario? Theres no indication that this post was made by an Irish person and theres loads of comments from other nationalities in this thread, but the only one you decided to engage with was a comment that mentioned that Britian conquered Ireland? Why are you ignoring everyone else? Why are you only responding to comments relating to Ireland? Sounds to me like you have a bit of bigotry yourself.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago (19 children)

    And? The Beakers wiped out 90% of the Neolithic people. The Irish are the purist Beaker people, and they committed the worst genocide in European history.

    Imperialism is enlightened in comparison.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (18 children)

    You're just being facetious again because you haven't a clue.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 days ago (17 children)

    It's historic fact. If I have to account for my dead ancestors, then so do they

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (16 children)

    Except it isnt an historic fact because the Beakers didnt "wipe them out". They were absorbed into Beaker culture over hundreds of years due to migration.

    And Beaker is a cultural phenomenon, not a race of people. Those Beaker people on the island of Ireland were not necessarily genetically related to those on the continent.

    And even if they did wipe them out, the Beakers were not a single unified people under one flag and one leader like the Brits. Why would people living far off on an island off the west coast of Europe have anything to do with the actions of people on the continent just because they make similiar pottery?

    Your comparison is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (15 children)

    They did wipe them out. They colonised them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (14 children)

    Colonised by the fictional Beaker Empire that you made up?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago* (13 children)

    No, the beakers wiped out the Neolithic people. Largest European genocide in history.

    The Irish are the purest genetic descendants of the Beakers.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (12 children)

    Largest European genocide in history.

    Then provide a source that shows that the genocide you made up by the Beaker Empire you made up was larger than the holocaust.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (11 children)

    We document this phenomenon most clearly in Britain, where the spread of the Beaker complex introduced high levels of steppe-related ancestry and was associated with the replacement of approximately 90% of Britain's gene pool within a few hundred years, continuing the east-to-west expansion that had brought steppe-related ancestry into central and northern Europe over the previous centuries.

    https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/id/eprint/129642

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (10 children)

    Doesnt say genocide anywhere. And it doesnt say it was larger than the holocaust either.

    Congrats. You disproved yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (9 children)

    They wiped out 90% of the population you plank

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (8 children)

    Largest European genocide in history.

    You said it was the largest genocide in European history. I asked you to prove that and you didnt. Your source doesn't even mention genocide.

    They wiped out 90% of the population you plank

    Your source doesnt say that either. The part you yourself highlighted says:

    steppe-related ancestry and was associated with the replacement of approximately 90% of Britain's gene pool within a few hundred years.

    Genetic replacement doesn't mean genocide you plank. And it doesnt mean "ThEy WiPeD tHeM oUt!!!" either. That's why genocide isn't mentioned anywhere in the article you sourced.

    The only plank here is you. You've made it very clear that you don't actually know what genocide means. Genocide has a specific definition. So why don't you look up what that is before you make a fool of yourself any further?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

    What word would you use for the wiping out of 90% of the population lol

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago* (6 children)

    What word would you use for the wiping out of 90% of the population lol

    Not genocide because it doesnt meet the definitions.

    Keep digging holes for yourself.

    You made the claim:

    Largest European Genocide in history

    Stop dancing around it and prove your claim.

    Edit: Im done with you. This is a waste of time. We both know you cant prove your claim and you're just going to reply with some other nonsense.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (5 children)

    Lol, you're the one digging a hole with your ignorance.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/ancient-dna-reveals-a-tragic-genocide-hidden-in-humanitys-past

    In Scandinavia: The incoming Steppe groups formed the Single Grave culture.

    In Britain & Ireland: The incoming Steppe groups formed the Bell Beaker culture.

    Both regions experienced nearly identical fates: a rapid, near-total (~90%) genetic replacement of the existing population within a few centuries

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (4 children)

    Largest European genocide in history.

    Still no source for this.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Lol, fuck off

    Edit LMAO

    The oldest Gaelic literature describes the origins of the Irish people as a series of ancient invasions

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1518445113?hl=en-GB

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