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[–] 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

I've been repeating this ever since the first 2026 Iran war when prices started to go up.

In Australia, the average commute in a petrol car costs $125 per week in petrol. To get an EV on a loan costs $85 in repayments per week and $10 of energy per week.

It is literally cheaper to give an ICE car away and take a loan to buy an EV than to continue to drive the ICE car.

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  • [–] 1 point 21 hours ago

    How does one avoid DRM and maintain repairability using common tools outside of the power storage and motors? As in, not requiring a $1,000,000 piece of software with a $6,000/mo subscription to the mothership just to authorize work on the brakes? Yes, Hyundai is already forcing this on customers.

    How does one avoid subscriptions, to ensure everything that came with the vehicle works 100% without having to pay a single cent extra? Because if it came with the vehicle I had damn well have full and unrestricted access to use it.

    And most importantly, how does one avoid being tracked and recorded, such that absolutely nothing about you, your driving habits, or what happens around your vehicle is uploaded to the manufacturer or even stored on the vehicle, to be recovered at a later date without your express consent, invariably to be used against you?

    I’ll gladly buy the first post-1930s EV that has none of these issues.

    I fully expect to die of old age before that happens.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (6 children)

    This must be why we only have $45,000+ (60k AUD) EVs available in the US. Especially since they the Republican morons canceled the tax rebates because they were too woke.

    Edit: it may not have been clear that I’m stuck with shitty used ice options in a much dumber country than Australia.

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago (1 child)

    I bought a $37,000 (AUD) EV and its fantastic.
    This isnt an outlier, a LOT of BEV's and Hybrids are sub $60k here in australia.

    Costs me between $0-34 to charge per week.
    $0 if i charge on weekends with solar, $34 if i charge only during peak hours, or somewhere in between if i charge off-peak (during rhe night or middle of the day).

    The tax rebates were for loans, not purchases. And they are being rolled back because they were to incentivise EV uptake, which is no longer neccessary.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    This site has a database of EVs for sale in Australia - currently the cheapest is BYD Atto 1 at $23,990. For comparison, the cheapest ICE car to buy new is Kia Picanto Sport manual at $19,190 (Edit: or MG 3 Vibe auto at $20,990 if you can't drive a manual transmission).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    Oh if the US ever allows BYD to sell here it’s going to be as a rebadged Chevy or Ford. Like in the 80s with econo cars and mini trucks.

    But I suspect that won’t happen until all the boomer money finally runs out and car sales fully stop.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    new EVs are definitely overpriced, but secondhand ones, for the brave, are an excellent option. Ask me how I know 😁

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    Yeah I’ve never bought a new car, and the way EV batteries are holding up, a used one is definitely in my future.

    Too bad they haven’t figured out the issue with the Ionics yet. That’s the one that I’d like I think.

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