GrapheneOS is currently defending its use of AI coding tools on Mastodon against complaints by various accounts claiming to be users.

We do not understand where you're coming from or why you're so incredibly angry with us. It's not justified and does not make sense.

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[–] 1 point 17 hours ago (16 children)

AI is a new technology that is not going anywhere.

I always wonder where this sentiment comes from. Whether or not AI is going anywhere is still very much up in the air

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago

    I always wonder where this sentiment comes from. Whether or not AI is going anywhere is still very much up in the air

    It exclusively comes from either snake oil vendors or people who are less smart than they think they are. Where the former are typically part of the latter group.

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  • [–] 5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

    You cannot put the evils back into Pandora's Box when it was already open.

    Even if these companies sink, individuals can still use their own hardware for AI. Ai is here to stay whether we like it or not.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago*

    So where are all the 3D TVs? Where's the Nintendo Virtual Boy? Betamax? Google Wave? Google+? NFTs?

    Oh not transformational enough?

    Ok then how long did it take electric vehicles to come back after The fossil fuel industry killed them in like 1920?

    Oh here's a good one: thalidomide. That one went away for good.

    How about the hole in the ozone layer?

    Sorry, AI is only a foregone conclusion because apparently everyone's had their consent beautifully manufactured to an extreme degree.

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  • [–] 4 points 14 hours ago

    Sure you can. Because in this case Pandora’s box is something which exists solely through a sustained, inconceivable amount of money being continuously funneled into it without any guaranteed long term benefit to the people who do so. It’s a technology which isn’t sold as a product as it exists in its current form, but a theoretical future form.

    If the bottom were to fall out from under it tomorrow, it couldn’t even continue to exist as it is now, it would disappear entirely as there would be no financial incentive to keep it running. Individuals could still run what we have now offline, but its value and usefulness would degrade rapidly as time went on, because it relies on mass-scale power consumption and data theft to remain up to date, much less improve.

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  • [–] -3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

    It's not going anywhere because it's already been here for a very long time, you just didn't know about it

    What people call "AI" is just Machine Learning.

    Chatbots, OCR, Text-to-Speech, Speech-to-Text, Computer Vision, Web Search, Spam filtering or Fraud detection, Personalized ADs, even your phone's camera processing algorithm.

    It's all Machine Learning, but now under new and fancy "AI" name. And it's been here for decades.

    The reason it blew up this much only now is because people realized that the more data you feed into it, the better the output becomes. And so they started exploring it more, to the extent of causing valid ethical concerns.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

    Machine learning isn’t going anywhere. But it’s clear from the context here what we’re referring to when we say AI in this conversation.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago

    Machine learning isn’t going anywhere.

    As someone who despises the current slop hype with a passion, you're correct on this. But only when you exclude LLMs. Because they are garbage with a net negative for mankind. Machine learning as a field however has very useful applications. Typically such that complement human assessment of data, e.g. re-viewing radiology images to flag potentially anomalous images for a second doctor to look at - not in place of the first doctor.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    Apparently, not to me. Explain.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    At the very least, you'd have to convince both the US and China to stomp it out. And then there are other countries that would be willing to pick up the slack.

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