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[–] 28 points 2 days ago* (2 children)

they say Iran destroyed 8 F-15 planes

At $88M+ each. Also doesn't help that we've curbed our capacity to produce this kind of aircraft over the last decade. Every lost F-15 will take years to replace, if we can replace them at all.

This is complete failure of US intelligence and US navy, This is total failure of republican led military.

Idk, man. It's very easy to say this was an intelligence failure. But what if we had these bases with the implicit consent (or, at least, apathy) of those around them? What if there wasn't any practical defense against an armed uprising of this scale and sophistication?

I do think westerners have this sense of invincibility, such that the only explanation for a defeat is that they misplayed a winning hand. But we fell into that trap in Korea and then in Vietnam and then again in Afghanistan and Iraq. We spend decade after decade fighting these enormous populations of anti-colonial insurgents and losing time after time.

Maybe this isn't some kind of tactical failure. Maybe we just shouldn't have picked another losing fight against a bunch of home grown freedom fighters Islamic Extremists when they'd just finished kicking our asses five years ago.

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