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[–] 3 points 4 days ago

This thread is actually fantastic, I've never seen so much open discussion about veganism between vegans and non-vegans with so little malice so I'd say you hit pay dirt.

I like your utilitarian determination of pain more than most utilitarians, who require a complete nervous system and therefore eat shellfish. Your test has a higher standard than theirs, because shellfish still retract when poked nervous system or not.

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