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[–] pnwpixel@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

As an Oregonian, I'd like to fight the US along side you.

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[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think they’d find out Washington Stste, Minnesota, Michigan, Maine, Vermont, New York and probably Massachusetts, California and Oregon would all join Canadian resistance.

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[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

You forgot New Hampshire

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[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 days ago

You mean north Tennessee? I wouldn’t count on them.

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[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 child)

Act 2 the US claims they kinda won? Is that not the war that is not taught in schools down there because Canada got shit faced and burnt down the white house.

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[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Oh they teach it in schools, but they leave that part out. It is framed as a US victory due to hype and cope

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

We were in the big wars (the whole time!), but yes, since then it's been helping someone else do COIN.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago* (8 children)

I don't think you can say that if you've never been invaded/occupied by a superior army.

Maybe come over to vietnam and go to some museums or talk to some people if you want to know what asym warfare is like.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, Canadians have no idea what it's like. We've seen even less ugliness than Americans, and when this whole thing started, we had to go to hockey for martial metaphors.

Living in a warzone is a learning curve you can go up fast, though, because you have no choice.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

I know someone who served in the Canadian Armed Forces and did a tour diffusing IEDs in Afghanistan. I'm pretty sure he knows how to build one if it came to that.

Americans don't recognize that Canadians actually did go to Afghanistan. It's not just Hockey metaphors, people in Canada actually do know the tactics the US military has a difficult time dealing with. That's because our soldiers had to deal with those same tactics when fighting alongside Americans for two fucking decades. If the US decides to betray Canada they will soon be reminded that Canadians were in Afghanistan and what was learned there.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Yeah, combat vets, relief workers and refugees are not included. Even just being from a family with those backgrounds teaches you a bit about how the world really works, when push comes to shove, speaking from experience.

The average Canadian on the street lacks the experience to understand, though. Even more than that, there's been a kind of resistance to understanding it, because it's easier and cleaner not to.

If OP thinks guerilla warfare is a vacation, they probably don't know what they don't know.

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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It's also worth noting that Canada has a land border with the USA. They can also pass as generic American, if required.

Asymmetric warfare wouldn't only be focused in Canada. E.g. a coordinated set of drone strikes could basically shatter large portions of the American power grid. There are too many soft, unmanned targets to viably protect, and the lead time of spares is measured in months to years, on some parts.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

I really need to figure out a way to practice American-style vowels.

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[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Heck a large portion of the American power grid is in Canada since we sell them so much.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -5 points 2 days ago (1 child)

Do you not remember covid? Your treatlerites rioted in Montréal and tried to do a J6 over the most tepid restrictions. The ones jerking off over a romantic idea of fighting a war aren't prepared to spend years living without the lifestyle they're accustomed to and have themselves and their families randomly imprisoned or murdered by the evil empire they've served so faithfully. You'd be closer to the conditions of the IRA than Vietnam or Iran, except even they had a history of genocides to radicalize people.

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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

FYI, I'm not Canadian. Just an observer from the other side of the pond, watching America die in morbid horror.

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[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

Are you joking? Most of you couldn't even fucking handle staying inside and not going to parties when you wanted to. Stop acting like Canadians are hard.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 day ago

TBF OP was just speaking for themselves.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

I wouldn't. Why conduct the destructive mess that is a war in our own living room?

I'd contribute to any effort to make long range drones that strike energy and electronic infrastructure deep inside the US instead.

Keep the destruction over there. Watch American arrogance melt away as they realize that fighting a war isn't just some thing they send troops elsewhere to die over while they get to stay comfy and safe at home anymore.

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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The answer is going to be both.

Drones are the future of warfare. Ukraine has proven that.

But if the US decides to invade, it absolutely WILL send troops over the border. And we'll be there, shooting them down. Carney may have to undo Trudeau's silly handgun restrictions for us RPAL holders for the good of Canada.

I'm too old to be a soldier, but I can still hold a rifle. I'm not a violent person, but I will defend my country. I don't believe that most people in the US support this, but I will shoot to kill any that come across the border with plans to invade.

In my nearly 60 years on this planet, this is the first time I've said I will die defending my country.

So yes, in a situation of war we support drones. We support attacks deep within US territory, rather than traditional face-to-face combat.

But we will do whatever it takes to protect our country.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Almost 70 and cannot walk but 2 metres at a time. Strap a bomb to my scooter and I will drive into a bunch of em and blow them up.

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[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

Hello future drone operator

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Ohh that would be fun. One little, two little invaders, three, four little invaders …

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[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

I am sure we can get you doing other things rather than suicide scooting.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Dude why die at someone when you can blast old dude ass at them. That's dangerous ass.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago*

If you're in a war, you're going to get people dying on both sides of the border.

And it's going to be hard to procure that many drone parts under occupation, so if that's your job, you might end up doing car/ATV bombs instead.

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[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

You all were the only ones to burn the White House down. Just saying…

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[–] potter2010@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

If they're in your living room, they're in effective control of your area. At that point there will not be long-range drones going (maybe coming in), there will only be direct action by the local populace.