▲ 142 ▼ What feature/utility/app are you surprised is not installed by default in Linux distributions? (lemdro.id) submitted 2 years ago by mfat@lemdro.id to c/linux@lemmy.ml 200 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Multimedia/ h264 codecs ?? KDE/GSconnect Something like Arch's downgrade package + an archive of package versions Hardware video acceleration support is sorely lacking Picture-in-picture in Gnome's Wayland (bug that a gnome-shell extension fixes!) permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Multimedia codecs have a different license agreement than the OS so they aren't bundled by default for a reason permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hottari@lemmy.ml -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't care about the licenses. If I click on my media and it refuses to play because some codec is omitted by default, am annoyed nonetheless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most distros have a checkbox during the installer that will add non-free components. It's a separate EULA you need to agree to so they can't do it for you. You may not care, but the distro provider's legal team absolutely cares about not getting sued for automatically bundling components with an incompatible license agreement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hottari@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The non-free components I've seen on installers are usually for Nvidia's proprietary drivers. Not codecs. Sounds like legal panic if you ask me. There's been no precedent for litigation on use of licensed codecs which most have been using either way prior in their builds and packages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They have never gone after said distros all those ^many^ ^many^ years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More annoyed when the distro doesn't even bother to document how to properly install the "missing" codecs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't mistake this as condescension, but doesn't VLC solve all of that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nope. VLC uses system libraries, unless you install through something that ships its own dependencies like flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've heard it's great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Jerbil@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago It's crazy that Linux distros think that installing codecs is a reasonable expectation for users. Especially users new to Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Jargus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago Oh yeah! That downgrade option sounds cool. The only time I kinda regretted being on Manjaro. VirtualBox 7 still doesn't have functional graphics. I tried downgrade, but that didn't work. Maybe I should have tried deleting the VirtualBox config 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not sure why KDE/GSconnect would need to be preinstalled tbh. But I agree with the others permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) because kde connect is so well made and everyone with a smartphone should use it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really want my smartphone notifs on my PC. It should be an optional addition, like it currently is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I actually turned off the notification sync, I only use it for file transfers and the remote control features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I have syncthing for file transfers, and I love it permalink fedilink source parent [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Quality of life improvement. Plus it's normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Plus it's normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now. And I don't approve of this transition. It's unnecessary bloat. Just install it if you want it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only a Gentoo user can make that claim. Hope you are one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's not true lol I am an arch user though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Guess what if you installed a DE, other than the tiling ones, it came with bloat. You probably also use systemd, another infamous piece of bloatware. /s Gentoo has less bloat than Arch if really want to get into nitpicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I use systemd, but I do not use a DE. Just because they contain bloat, doesn't mean they should, and that more should be added. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Multimedia codecs have a different license agreement than the OS so they aren't bundled by default for a reason permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hottari@lemmy.ml -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't care about the licenses. If I click on my media and it refuses to play because some codec is omitted by default, am annoyed nonetheless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most distros have a checkbox during the installer that will add non-free components. It's a separate EULA you need to agree to so they can't do it for you. You may not care, but the distro provider's legal team absolutely cares about not getting sued for automatically bundling components with an incompatible license agreement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hottari@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The non-free components I've seen on installers are usually for Nvidia's proprietary drivers. Not codecs. Sounds like legal panic if you ask me. There's been no precedent for litigation on use of licensed codecs which most have been using either way prior in their builds and packages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They have never gone after said distros all those ^many^ ^many^ years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More annoyed when the distro doesn't even bother to document how to properly install the "missing" codecs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't mistake this as condescension, but doesn't VLC solve all of that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nope. VLC uses system libraries, unless you install through something that ships its own dependencies like flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've heard it's great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hottari@lemmy.ml -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't care about the licenses. If I click on my media and it refuses to play because some codec is omitted by default, am annoyed nonetheless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most distros have a checkbox during the installer that will add non-free components. It's a separate EULA you need to agree to so they can't do it for you. You may not care, but the distro provider's legal team absolutely cares about not getting sued for automatically bundling components with an incompatible license agreement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hottari@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The non-free components I've seen on installers are usually for Nvidia's proprietary drivers. Not codecs. Sounds like legal panic if you ask me. There's been no precedent for litigation on use of licensed codecs which most have been using either way prior in their builds and packages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They have never gone after said distros all those ^many^ ^many^ years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More annoyed when the distro doesn't even bother to document how to properly install the "missing" codecs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't mistake this as condescension, but doesn't VLC solve all of that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nope. VLC uses system libraries, unless you install through something that ships its own dependencies like flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've heard it's great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most distros have a checkbox during the installer that will add non-free components. It's a separate EULA you need to agree to so they can't do it for you. You may not care, but the distro provider's legal team absolutely cares about not getting sued for automatically bundling components with an incompatible license agreement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hottari@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The non-free components I've seen on installers are usually for Nvidia's proprietary drivers. Not codecs. Sounds like legal panic if you ask me. There's been no precedent for litigation on use of licensed codecs which most have been using either way prior in their builds and packages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They have never gone after said distros all those ^many^ ^many^ years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hottari@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The non-free components I've seen on installers are usually for Nvidia's proprietary drivers. Not codecs. Sounds like legal panic if you ask me. There's been no precedent for litigation on use of licensed codecs which most have been using either way prior in their builds and packages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They have never gone after said distros all those ^many^ ^many^ years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They have never gone after said distros all those ^many^ ^many^ years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They have never gone after said distros all those ^many^ ^many^ years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More annoyed when the distro doesn't even bother to document how to properly install the "missing" codecs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't mistake this as condescension, but doesn't VLC solve all of that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nope. VLC uses system libraries, unless you install through something that ships its own dependencies like flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've heard it's great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't mistake this as condescension, but doesn't VLC solve all of that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nope. VLC uses system libraries, unless you install through something that ships its own dependencies like flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've heard it's great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nope. VLC uses system libraries, unless you install through something that ships its own dependencies like flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've heard it's great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've heard it's great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Jerbil@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago It's crazy that Linux distros think that installing codecs is a reasonable expectation for users. Especially users new to Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago It's crazy that Linux distros think that installing codecs is a reasonable expectation for users. Especially users new to Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Jargus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago Oh yeah! That downgrade option sounds cool. The only time I kinda regretted being on Manjaro. VirtualBox 7 still doesn't have functional graphics. I tried downgrade, but that didn't work. Maybe I should have tried deleting the VirtualBox config 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not sure why KDE/GSconnect would need to be preinstalled tbh. But I agree with the others permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) because kde connect is so well made and everyone with a smartphone should use it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really want my smartphone notifs on my PC. It should be an optional addition, like it currently is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I actually turned off the notification sync, I only use it for file transfers and the remote control features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I have syncthing for file transfers, and I love it permalink fedilink source parent [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Quality of life improvement. Plus it's normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Plus it's normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now. And I don't approve of this transition. It's unnecessary bloat. Just install it if you want it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only a Gentoo user can make that claim. Hope you are one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's not true lol I am an arch user though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Guess what if you installed a DE, other than the tiling ones, it came with bloat. You probably also use systemd, another infamous piece of bloatware. /s Gentoo has less bloat than Arch if really want to get into nitpicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I use systemd, but I do not use a DE. Just because they contain bloat, doesn't mean they should, and that more should be added. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) because kde connect is so well made and everyone with a smartphone should use it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really want my smartphone notifs on my PC. It should be an optional addition, like it currently is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I actually turned off the notification sync, I only use it for file transfers and the remote control features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I have syncthing for file transfers, and I love it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really want my smartphone notifs on my PC. It should be an optional addition, like it currently is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I actually turned off the notification sync, I only use it for file transfers and the remote control features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I have syncthing for file transfers, and I love it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I actually turned off the notification sync, I only use it for file transfers and the remote control features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I have syncthing for file transfers, and I love it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I have syncthing for file transfers, and I love it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Quality of life improvement. Plus it's normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Plus it's normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now. And I don't approve of this transition. It's unnecessary bloat. Just install it if you want it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only a Gentoo user can make that claim. Hope you are one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's not true lol I am an arch user though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Guess what if you installed a DE, other than the tiling ones, it came with bloat. You probably also use systemd, another infamous piece of bloatware. /s Gentoo has less bloat than Arch if really want to get into nitpicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I use systemd, but I do not use a DE. Just because they contain bloat, doesn't mean they should, and that more should be added. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Plus it's normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now. And I don't approve of this transition. It's unnecessary bloat. Just install it if you want it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only a Gentoo user can make that claim. Hope you are one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's not true lol I am an arch user though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Guess what if you installed a DE, other than the tiling ones, it came with bloat. You probably also use systemd, another infamous piece of bloatware. /s Gentoo has less bloat than Arch if really want to get into nitpicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I use systemd, but I do not use a DE. Just because they contain bloat, doesn't mean they should, and that more should be added. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only a Gentoo user can make that claim. Hope you are one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's not true lol I am an arch user though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Guess what if you installed a DE, other than the tiling ones, it came with bloat. You probably also use systemd, another infamous piece of bloatware. /s Gentoo has less bloat than Arch if really want to get into nitpicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I use systemd, but I do not use a DE. Just because they contain bloat, doesn't mean they should, and that more should be added. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's not true lol I am an arch user though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Guess what if you installed a DE, other than the tiling ones, it came with bloat. You probably also use systemd, another infamous piece of bloatware. /s Gentoo has less bloat than Arch if really want to get into nitpicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I use systemd, but I do not use a DE. Just because they contain bloat, doesn't mean they should, and that more should be added. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Guess what if you installed a DE, other than the tiling ones, it came with bloat. You probably also use systemd, another infamous piece of bloatware. /s Gentoo has less bloat than Arch if really want to get into nitpicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I use systemd, but I do not use a DE. Just because they contain bloat, doesn't mean they should, and that more should be added. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I use systemd, but I do not use a DE. Just because they contain bloat, doesn't mean they should, and that more should be added. permalink fedilink source parent