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Comrads, we must provide critical support, not critical thinking! (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 0 points 2 days ago (1 child)

Eh lol maybe just end this stupid war!

It did try to negotiate peace, but the European powers that are the masters of Ukraine right now do not understand that language, it seems.

Where they are the unquestionable aggressor of…

So, you are saying that NATO pushing for war with Russia, carrying out a coup in Ukraine, breaking promises to not expand towards Russia, and generally being the most prolific invader in the world is not aggression? Haha.

So, what should a state do when the most prolific invader in the world starts amassing troops on that state's borders (or otherwise in position, like in the case of Iran), especially after a coup against a neighbouring state?

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    Lol peace could be established tomorrow when they back out of their invasion.

    I hate USA's world policing as well and their imperalism, but this conflict would not exist, when Putler didn't get love fantasies of Hitler... You can try to turn it as much as you like, russia is the aggressor, they didn't had to invade (the krim in the first palce btw.).

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    peace could be established tomorrow when they back out of their invasion.

    NATO would keep up its aggression against Russia, so peace can't be achieved that way (unless you think that the rest of the world being subjugated by NATO is "peace").

    Meanwhile, the European powers could have agree to peace at many points, including in March, 2022, and including before 2022, and including by not doing the coup in 2013-2014.

    I hate USA’s world policing as well

    Firstly, you still believe whatever it says about its enemies. If you were alive back then, you would have believed Nayirah's testimony.
    Secondly, calling colonialism "world policing" is incredibly disingenuous and whitewashy.

    but this conflict would not exist, when Putler didn’t get love fantasies of Hitler

    Incredibly weird to claim this, considering that you support governments that worship personal friends of Hitler's, shutzstaffel troops, and other participants in the Holocaust and the Lebensraum.

    Also, it's very obvious that the conflict would not have happened without NATO pushing for it.

    russia is the aggressor they didn’t had to invade.

    You are yet to explain what Russia should have done.

    (the krim in the first palce btw.)

    So, you think that the people of Crimea do not deserve self-determination? Do consider that even NATO studies agree that they wanted to split from Ukraine and join Russia.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 days ago

    peace at many points

    Yeah by giving up territory of the ukraine, sorry but not sorry... I don't don't see this as a valid option for the Ukraine. They were invaded! Actually I think even that Russia would need to pay for these war crimes, although I think the peace-deal would be far less.

    This is just stupid imperialism at its finest, fucking russia destabilizing world peace. USA is bad here too, but russias way to initiate propaganda throughout the (not just) western world. It's just sad.. That is just destructive by all means (erodes any real social progress, for example in europe, or well this stupid Trump). I think the development for example in Europe where all kinds of right-wing parties are emerging, supporting Russia for "whatever" reason and eroding any factuality/morality and social progress.

    You are yet to explain what Russia should have done.

    Just not fucking invade Ukraine, god damn it, Is it that difficult to understand?? They should just care more about their own people instead of trying to externalize all this internal damage due to Putin of their eroding economy they have.

    Also, it’s very obvious that the conflict would not have happened without NATO pushing for it. NATO would keep up its aggression against Russia

    Lol care to give me some factual sources about NATO invading russias territory??

    I don't like NATO, especially the bootlicking of Mark Rutte regarding Trump. But Russia or rather Putin is just straight up an imperialistic dictator, disregarding their own economy and slowly eroding their economy and welfare, the development of Russia since Gorbatschow is so sad.

    Would be nice if China would be more like the Blueprint for Russia, they are at least rather peaceful (yet), and thinking more about their people and general progress (e.g. by Not destroying the world with fossil fuels, i.e. switching hard to renewable energy).

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