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Panel 1: A young bright-eyed man stands in front of a house.

Grandpa: I’m going to buy a house!

Panel 2: The young man is now old and bespectacled. He’s telling this story to his grandson, who is listening politely.

Grandpa: …and that was how I bought my house when I was 23!

Panel 3: Grandpa’s story turns into a yelling rant

Grandpa: I WORKED AT THE DRIVE-IN ALL SUMMER FOR THAT HOUSE!! NOBODY WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE!

Panel 4: Grandpa watches as his grandson unplugs a cord from the wall with a * POP *

Grandpa: …why are you unplugging my lamp?

Grandson: I’m just practicing

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[–] 19 points 4 days ago (27 children)

Serious question: Has anyone here had firsthand direct experience of a “boomer” saying sh*t like this? And I mean recently, not 20-30 years ago when the inequity was seemingly more obscure in popular culture.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    I was at a party one time. Right before covid, so not super recently, but more recent than 20-30 years ago. Older guy was complaining about young people complaining about housing costs. “Just buy a cheap house in %suburb! You could get one for $200,000,” he said.

    I was like “uhhh I’ll call that bluff. I’m in the market right now. I’ve been preapproved for $300,000 and I can’t find a house around here. If you can find me a house in %suburb for $200,000, I’ll pay you a $10,000 finders fee.”

    This dude spent the next two hours of the party not talking to anyone, locked in on his phone, looking at real estate listings. Then he finally apologized to me and was like “wow, I really didn’t know it was so bad.”

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  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    It almost happens weekly to me for aome reason. I'm a house technician in my forties, but i look really young. Eapecially older people often think i'm 20 something. I often work in their homes, fixing and renovating. I'm not much into Smalltalk, so i usually don't start conversations, but at some point they go: man, young people or young people like you just don't want to work anymore. Anf i go: yeah? Crazy. And then they tell me that they were a woodworker and their wife wotked a service job three times a week to afford this home and 3 kids when they were 23. They continue to tell stories that their grandchildren or whoever only work to 5pm, or whenever their shift is over and fon't care about the company they work for. They kinda never seem to be self aware enough to realise that their grandchildren or whoever they talk about are also around that age and often have way better jobs then they had and can't afford children, don't even think about owning a house because it's so far out of the scope. Anf it has nothing to do with them being lazy.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    I find the idea of company loyalty so fucking funny, especially as even as far back as 1980 the Dolly Parton movie 9-to-5 was satirizing how the concept was dead (even for the bad guys).

    My company of roughly 25 people has seen 100 people come and go in 2 years. Offer vested pensions, locked in severence, workers comp, mat/pat leave, separate sick and PTO leave, abandon right-to-work and implement wellness programmes and watch company loyalty massively spike.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago*

    I love the idea of company loyalty but your last sentence is spot on. I became a contractor because I can choose to work on projects I’m passionate about and take care of myself instead of relying on some bs corporate lip service. I’d give it up in a heartbeat to work at the non existent company that actually cared about and invested in its people long term rather than just spewing bullshit at best. Even then, if that company did exist it would eventually just get bought out or taken over if it ever got marginally successful and it would all get stripped away anyhow.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 days ago

    Yes. Twice within the last 3 years at least.

    An acquaintance of a friend of mine owns their own business and was saying that they voted for Trump and weren't worried that so many of their hard-working employees had quit our been deported because

    "Nobody wants to work anymore. My employees work hard because they don't have a choice, but now that I don't have enough eventually I'll have to hire white people and they'll learn how to work hard because they'll have to. Trump's plan is working."

    Or something very similar to that.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 days ago

    Not the house part directly but I got the work part repeatedly after graduation from my own family (who are renting). It was constant verbal harassment about laziness and 'not wanting to work' under threats of being kicked out onto the street. Stopped only after a job agency they picked had every partnered employer reject me and my degree for 6 months straight. The only reason given was a paradoxical "overqualified and under-experienced" which is to say the boomer retoric of "degrees = jobs" was fatally backwards in an era where employers only offered minimum wage for the job responsibilities of 3 people.

    Took 4 years after university to land my first job and only as a contract labor hire on an assembly line in late 2019... FML. Spent the past 5 years of underpaid work forcing my way back into software QA just in time for the era of slop... FML part 2. I now make decent money and live with my partner but to my parents it's like those 4 years of victim blaming never happened and my success is magically attributable to their 'support'.

    TLDR: It is absolutely a real mindset still driving boomer cognitive dissonance with reality.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

    Yep. The excuse was "but we earned far less back then too!" and then you have to show them what their income actually was scaled to 2026 inflation. And then they shut up for a bit. Until they bring it up again.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    In my limited experience, they are not interested in factual truth as much as they just want their opinion and biases validated. When push comes to shove, they'll fall back to "everyone's entitled to their opinion" (which they don't apply consistently to others with differing opinions).

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 child)

    My father, pretty fresh out of Viet Nam and only a couple years in the Chicago Fire Department was able to get a mortgage for a cute house on the outskirts of town.

    Unfortunately for me, now that it is time to pry my aging mom from the property it has been largely unimproved and we'll be lucky to get 300k for it. That's still twice what they paid for it, ultimately.

    I could have taken it over like my dad did his mother's house, but there's no way I'm rotting out where I grew up. I like culture too much.

    Edit: It was probably 50k when they signed the mortgage, but ended up paying for it 3+times. She's lived there almost 50 years and still doesn't own it.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago*

    :To Add: My father had an entry level blue collar job for the late 70s-80s, minor promotion in the 90s, was able to support a family of four and a shadow family of three in the 90s-00's when he got bored of us.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    My mother and stepdad were Silent Gen, but they were chalk full of pithy folk whizdum such as this. Mostly involving the virtues of being a doormat at work.

    Mom paid $5700 for the house in 1972. After they were both dead, we found out my stepdad had been a hoarder and ruined the place. We still got 600K.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago

    My mother who is in her mid 70s says shit like this, but she is very divorced from reality at this point. My right leaning in laws probably say things like this, but I try to speak to them as little as possible so I don't hear the regurgitated Fox News that comes out of their mouths.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    Yeah

    My parents

    Admittedly, they did put in a bit of work to get where they are, but they happily ignore the fact that they were born into a position of relative privilege and that the world is a very different place

    Even while they moan about how different things are now...

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    This needs to be qualified by socioeconomic status. It's got to be the upper class or conservative sycophants saying things like that.

    And there's the confirmation bias effect. Nobody is asking about the majority of the "boomer" generation who don't talk like that.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago

    Yes. You don't get it unless they're related to you. To your point they have a concept that their attitude is reactionary, but if you're in the right family with sad enough people they'll hit you with shit like this. Honestly I don't experience it from my family but I've been there when my friend's dad pisses and moans about the current generation and how he had it harder than us and still worked more etc.

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