▲ 427 ▼ Charlie Kirk murder suspect pleads not guilty to murder charge (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 5 days ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/news@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 days ago (3 children) Before anyone goes vouching for this guy, my understanding is that he didn't see Kirk as pure enough ideologically, IE he wasn't Nazi enough. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) I'm not disputing this, but I can't find any verification. Do we actually have any sources on his ideology? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 days ago It was initially reported and mentioned online he subscribed to Nick Fuentes. Unfortunately, trying to find sources now a days given how much mush there is out there is harder than I thought. Every site wants a subscription or ad blocker turned off or is questionable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Endgame@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (4 children) Correct. He was a Groyper. A Nick Fuentes brand Nazi. Fuentes and Kirk had a feud. Fascist infighting is a very real phenomenon Americans aren't taught enough about because talking about how the Nazis were in fact murdering each other to rise through the ranks undermines the narrative that "The Nazis were owning everyone..... until America swooped in and saved the day! Oh yeah!" Truth is, Nazi infighting contributed more to the downfall of Nazi Germany than America did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 1 point 2 days ago Do you have a source on this? I heard initially that he was a groyper but never really saw any evidence backing it up. I would be interested if there were new developments I've missed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) This is why we need to understand that you always punch Nazis. I'm tired of cajoling to mods and pretending "fReE sPeEcH" makes Nazis tolerable just to keep from being banned. Hopefully that's just my nascent trauma from reddit and I won't get banned here, lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 days ago “fReE sPeEcH” makes Nazis tolerable Which is a risk. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 4 days ago Fascist infighting is a very real phenomenon Americans aren't taught enough about Honestly, that's really just ideological fracturing, scaled up with the degree of radicalisation and readiness to do violence. The more you're willing to kill the opposition, the more likely you're willing to also target perceived opposition in your own ranks. That infighting is probably more visible to us on the left because we see it all the time, while the right wing's propagandists manage to project an image of unity. Charlie getting Kirked is an example of that facade cracking. Good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 days ago Fascist infighting is a very real phenomenon That should be encouraged. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago He doesn't need to be a saint for it to be apparent he's a fall guy. Based on what the FBI has told us it's obvious this guy didn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) I'm not disputing this, but I can't find any verification. Do we actually have any sources on his ideology? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 days ago It was initially reported and mentioned online he subscribed to Nick Fuentes. Unfortunately, trying to find sources now a days given how much mush there is out there is harder than I thought. Every site wants a subscription or ad blocker turned off or is questionable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 days ago It was initially reported and mentioned online he subscribed to Nick Fuentes. Unfortunately, trying to find sources now a days given how much mush there is out there is harder than I thought. Every site wants a subscription or ad blocker turned off or is questionable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Endgame@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (4 children) Correct. He was a Groyper. A Nick Fuentes brand Nazi. Fuentes and Kirk had a feud. Fascist infighting is a very real phenomenon Americans aren't taught enough about because talking about how the Nazis were in fact murdering each other to rise through the ranks undermines the narrative that "The Nazis were owning everyone..... until America swooped in and saved the day! Oh yeah!" Truth is, Nazi infighting contributed more to the downfall of Nazi Germany than America did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 1 point 2 days ago Do you have a source on this? I heard initially that he was a groyper but never really saw any evidence backing it up. I would be interested if there were new developments I've missed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) This is why we need to understand that you always punch Nazis. I'm tired of cajoling to mods and pretending "fReE sPeEcH" makes Nazis tolerable just to keep from being banned. Hopefully that's just my nascent trauma from reddit and I won't get banned here, lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 days ago “fReE sPeEcH” makes Nazis tolerable Which is a risk. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 4 days ago Fascist infighting is a very real phenomenon Americans aren't taught enough about Honestly, that's really just ideological fracturing, scaled up with the degree of radicalisation and readiness to do violence. The more you're willing to kill the opposition, the more likely you're willing to also target perceived opposition in your own ranks. That infighting is probably more visible to us on the left because we see it all the time, while the right wing's propagandists manage to project an image of unity. Charlie getting Kirked is an example of that facade cracking. Good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 days ago Fascist infighting is a very real phenomenon That should be encouraged. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 1 point 2 days ago Do you have a source on this? I heard initially that he was a groyper but never really saw any evidence backing it up. I would be interested if there were new developments I've missed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) This is why we need to understand that you always punch Nazis. I'm tired of cajoling to mods and pretending "fReE sPeEcH" makes Nazis tolerable just to keep from being banned. Hopefully that's just my nascent trauma from reddit and I won't get banned here, lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 days ago “fReE sPeEcH” makes Nazis tolerable Which is a risk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 days ago “fReE sPeEcH” makes Nazis tolerable Which is a risk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 4 days ago Fascist infighting is a very real phenomenon Americans aren't taught enough about Honestly, that's really just ideological fracturing, scaled up with the degree of radicalisation and readiness to do violence. The more you're willing to kill the opposition, the more likely you're willing to also target perceived opposition in your own ranks. That infighting is probably more visible to us on the left because we see it all the time, while the right wing's propagandists manage to project an image of unity. Charlie getting Kirked is an example of that facade cracking. Good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 days ago Fascist infighting is a very real phenomenon That should be encouraged. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago He doesn't need to be a saint for it to be apparent he's a fall guy. Based on what the FBI has told us it's obvious this guy didn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent