▲ 427 ▼ Charlie Kirk murder suspect pleads not guilty to murder charge (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 6 days ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/news@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] rockettaco37@feddit.nu 32 points 5 days ago (2 children) Should be destruction of property instead. Murder implies the killing of a human. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aethr@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (2 children) Dehumanization is a tool of the fascists. Don't use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockettaco37@feddit.nu 3 points 4 days ago It’s hard to see the humanity in some of these people… permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk -2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Fascists aren't human, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aethr@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 child) They are — all humans are capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse, and to claim otherwise just makes you open to lines of thought like "I know I'm human, which means I can't be as cruel as them". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk -3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) No, it doesn't, and I resent that implication. There is no line of reasoning between your not-even-wrong claim that all humans are capable of these unspecified kinds of cruelty and the conclusion that claiming otherwise leads to logical inversions like the one you have chosen. I am not capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse. I would die before committing them. Claiming 1. does not impair my ability to do logic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago If I may... I agree that we shouldn't use their tactic of dehumanization, BUT... we absolutely need to adjust our policy of what kinds of horrible behavior actually does justify a punch in the face (fascism and nazi stuff) permalink fedilink source parent [–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 point 5 days ago Generally once you remove trash from your property it becomes fair game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aethr@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (2 children) Dehumanization is a tool of the fascists. Don't use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockettaco37@feddit.nu 3 points 4 days ago It’s hard to see the humanity in some of these people… permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk -2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Fascists aren't human, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aethr@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 child) They are — all humans are capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse, and to claim otherwise just makes you open to lines of thought like "I know I'm human, which means I can't be as cruel as them". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk -3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) No, it doesn't, and I resent that implication. There is no line of reasoning between your not-even-wrong claim that all humans are capable of these unspecified kinds of cruelty and the conclusion that claiming otherwise leads to logical inversions like the one you have chosen. I am not capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse. I would die before committing them. Claiming 1. does not impair my ability to do logic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago If I may... I agree that we shouldn't use their tactic of dehumanization, BUT... we absolutely need to adjust our policy of what kinds of horrible behavior actually does justify a punch in the face (fascism and nazi stuff) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockettaco37@feddit.nu 3 points 4 days ago It’s hard to see the humanity in some of these people… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk -2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Fascists aren't human, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aethr@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 child) They are — all humans are capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse, and to claim otherwise just makes you open to lines of thought like "I know I'm human, which means I can't be as cruel as them". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk -3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) No, it doesn't, and I resent that implication. There is no line of reasoning between your not-even-wrong claim that all humans are capable of these unspecified kinds of cruelty and the conclusion that claiming otherwise leads to logical inversions like the one you have chosen. I am not capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse. I would die before committing them. Claiming 1. does not impair my ability to do logic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago If I may... I agree that we shouldn't use their tactic of dehumanization, BUT... we absolutely need to adjust our policy of what kinds of horrible behavior actually does justify a punch in the face (fascism and nazi stuff) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aethr@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 child) They are — all humans are capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse, and to claim otherwise just makes you open to lines of thought like "I know I'm human, which means I can't be as cruel as them". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk -3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) No, it doesn't, and I resent that implication. There is no line of reasoning between your not-even-wrong claim that all humans are capable of these unspecified kinds of cruelty and the conclusion that claiming otherwise leads to logical inversions like the one you have chosen. I am not capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse. I would die before committing them. Claiming 1. does not impair my ability to do logic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago If I may... I agree that we shouldn't use their tactic of dehumanization, BUT... we absolutely need to adjust our policy of what kinds of horrible behavior actually does justify a punch in the face (fascism and nazi stuff) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk -3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) No, it doesn't, and I resent that implication. There is no line of reasoning between your not-even-wrong claim that all humans are capable of these unspecified kinds of cruelty and the conclusion that claiming otherwise leads to logical inversions like the one you have chosen. I am not capable of the kinds of cruelty fascists espouse. I would die before committing them. Claiming 1. does not impair my ability to do logic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago If I may... I agree that we shouldn't use their tactic of dehumanization, BUT... we absolutely need to adjust our policy of what kinds of horrible behavior actually does justify a punch in the face (fascism and nazi stuff) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago If I may... I agree that we shouldn't use their tactic of dehumanization, BUT... we absolutely need to adjust our policy of what kinds of horrible behavior actually does justify a punch in the face (fascism and nazi stuff) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 point 5 days ago Generally once you remove trash from your property it becomes fair game. permalink fedilink source parent