▲ 427 ▼ Charlie Kirk murder suspect pleads not guilty to murder charge (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 6 days ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/news@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (3 children) People upvoting you need to know that this is not a thing. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39365495/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 child) Can't wait for some doc to get declassified and we learn the CIA has been doing it for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you", I suppose. lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 days ago You're trusting a source published by the US government in 2025? It absolutely is a thing. https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/Torture/Call/Individuals/Harrassmenttechniques.pdf Pay especial attention to point 14. For more information, see here here and here: https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/thematic-reports/ahrc4349-report-psychological-torture-and-ill-treatment https://purdueglobal.dspacedirect.org/items/07d416e0-5a77-46c6-818b-d33392493f4b https://bounceblack.org/resources/organised-harassment/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children) It is not a 'real phenomenon' compared with genuine stalking What is gangstalking and what genuine stalking? Basic trolling and harassing people is real thing. Unless you're saying trolling doesn't exist. I know nothing about this "gangstalking" stuff, but it sounds like it's about people who have a particular delusion, perhaps based on grander conspiracies, that isn't grounded in reality. But that doesn't mean that stalking doesn't exist. Don't tell me you guys are arguing that. The far right propaganda system is making violent extremists. That is also a real thing. Whether or not it happened to this guy is not out of the question just because paranoid schizophrenia is a thing. Far right spaces are violent almost by default on account of being hate networks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (1 child) There’s a gangstalking subreddit; go give it a look. You’ll see plenty of people posting on there about how “the followers” only appear when said poster has just finished smoking their bowl of meth. They’ll ask: Are the stalkers following them to steal their crank, or is the meth opening a vision of true reality and “unmasking” the followers? And weirdly, no one can say for sure. I’m not joking at all: These are the people you’re white-knighting. Maybe you can be the brave hero who solves the mystery for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago* So the Charlie Kirk shooter is a meth head that was seeing things? You guys seem to be trying to muddy up the waters, which is what I suspected all along. And what exactly is being "whiteknighted" here? You're trying fight a culture war or something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that. So when I link to something talking about how gangstalking isn't a thing, you think I'm saying stalking doesn't happen? Please feel free to put other words in my mouth, I guess, if it makes you happy to do so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) It was a question. Not an assertion. You're already combative. Your motives are suspect. You didn't answer the question btw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago I can't help if it you use improper English. You made a statement. Statements are ended with periods. Questions are ended with question marks. So, alright, now that I understand the error you made, let's re-evaluate based on that: Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that? Nope. Nobody is arguing that stalking doesn't exist. Is that better? Maybe my motives will be less suspect when we're using the same language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 child) Can't wait for some doc to get declassified and we learn the CIA has been doing it for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you", I suppose. lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you", I suppose. lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 days ago You're trusting a source published by the US government in 2025? It absolutely is a thing. https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/Torture/Call/Individuals/Harrassmenttechniques.pdf Pay especial attention to point 14. For more information, see here here and here: https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/thematic-reports/ahrc4349-report-psychological-torture-and-ill-treatment https://purdueglobal.dspacedirect.org/items/07d416e0-5a77-46c6-818b-d33392493f4b https://bounceblack.org/resources/organised-harassment/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children) It is not a 'real phenomenon' compared with genuine stalking What is gangstalking and what genuine stalking? Basic trolling and harassing people is real thing. Unless you're saying trolling doesn't exist. I know nothing about this "gangstalking" stuff, but it sounds like it's about people who have a particular delusion, perhaps based on grander conspiracies, that isn't grounded in reality. But that doesn't mean that stalking doesn't exist. Don't tell me you guys are arguing that. The far right propaganda system is making violent extremists. That is also a real thing. Whether or not it happened to this guy is not out of the question just because paranoid schizophrenia is a thing. Far right spaces are violent almost by default on account of being hate networks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (1 child) There’s a gangstalking subreddit; go give it a look. You’ll see plenty of people posting on there about how “the followers” only appear when said poster has just finished smoking their bowl of meth. They’ll ask: Are the stalkers following them to steal their crank, or is the meth opening a vision of true reality and “unmasking” the followers? And weirdly, no one can say for sure. I’m not joking at all: These are the people you’re white-knighting. Maybe you can be the brave hero who solves the mystery for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago* So the Charlie Kirk shooter is a meth head that was seeing things? You guys seem to be trying to muddy up the waters, which is what I suspected all along. And what exactly is being "whiteknighted" here? You're trying fight a culture war or something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that. So when I link to something talking about how gangstalking isn't a thing, you think I'm saying stalking doesn't happen? Please feel free to put other words in my mouth, I guess, if it makes you happy to do so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) It was a question. Not an assertion. You're already combative. Your motives are suspect. You didn't answer the question btw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago I can't help if it you use improper English. You made a statement. Statements are ended with periods. Questions are ended with question marks. So, alright, now that I understand the error you made, let's re-evaluate based on that: Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that? Nope. Nobody is arguing that stalking doesn't exist. Is that better? Maybe my motives will be less suspect when we're using the same language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (1 child) There’s a gangstalking subreddit; go give it a look. You’ll see plenty of people posting on there about how “the followers” only appear when said poster has just finished smoking their bowl of meth. They’ll ask: Are the stalkers following them to steal their crank, or is the meth opening a vision of true reality and “unmasking” the followers? And weirdly, no one can say for sure. I’m not joking at all: These are the people you’re white-knighting. Maybe you can be the brave hero who solves the mystery for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago* So the Charlie Kirk shooter is a meth head that was seeing things? You guys seem to be trying to muddy up the waters, which is what I suspected all along. And what exactly is being "whiteknighted" here? You're trying fight a culture war or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago* So the Charlie Kirk shooter is a meth head that was seeing things? You guys seem to be trying to muddy up the waters, which is what I suspected all along. And what exactly is being "whiteknighted" here? You're trying fight a culture war or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that. So when I link to something talking about how gangstalking isn't a thing, you think I'm saying stalking doesn't happen? Please feel free to put other words in my mouth, I guess, if it makes you happy to do so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) It was a question. Not an assertion. You're already combative. Your motives are suspect. You didn't answer the question btw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago I can't help if it you use improper English. You made a statement. Statements are ended with periods. Questions are ended with question marks. So, alright, now that I understand the error you made, let's re-evaluate based on that: Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that? Nope. Nobody is arguing that stalking doesn't exist. Is that better? Maybe my motives will be less suspect when we're using the same language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) It was a question. Not an assertion. You're already combative. Your motives are suspect. You didn't answer the question btw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago I can't help if it you use improper English. You made a statement. Statements are ended with periods. Questions are ended with question marks. So, alright, now that I understand the error you made, let's re-evaluate based on that: Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that? Nope. Nobody is arguing that stalking doesn't exist. Is that better? Maybe my motives will be less suspect when we're using the same language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago I can't help if it you use improper English. You made a statement. Statements are ended with periods. Questions are ended with question marks. So, alright, now that I understand the error you made, let's re-evaluate based on that: Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that? Nope. Nobody is arguing that stalking doesn't exist. Is that better? Maybe my motives will be less suspect when we're using the same language. permalink fedilink source parent