▲ 427 ▼ Charlie Kirk murder suspect pleads not guilty to murder charge (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 6 days ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/news@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 6 days ago (5 children) The dude is a groyper, it's best to just sit back and watch the show on this one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago He is? Well god damnit permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 5 points 5 days ago* (1 child) No he was a former groyper who converted into a liberal after crushing on a trans person in real life and realizing he was lied to. You can literally read his text messages, he talks about what a hateful evil POS Chahley was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) "figuring out that Kirk is a POS" is clear "converting into a liberal after crushing on a trans person"? is a massive stretch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) Like I said you can read his messages. He went through a huge transformation after meeting this person and realizing she was just a normal human being. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) That would still be described as "did it because Kirk would deride a person he now liked" not "did it because he got converted into a liberal". You're not suddenly a liberal because you have a relationship with an LGBT person or figured out that they're human. There's little to no evidence to show he was invested in political ideologies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* Merks Kirk > Posts edgy memes He would've more than balanced the scales, if he was guilty....which he's not, as it was obviously an Israeli op. If you don't believe me, just listen the Gospel of Klandace. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) i'm gonna need a source on that, this is something i haven't heard yet and it sounds too wild to be true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 6 points 6 days ago (1 child) https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/charlie-kirk-and-tyler-robinson-came-from-the-same-warped-online-worlds permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 child) That's no meaningful proof that he's a groyper, even the article admits it: In isolation, the references are vague enough to be interpreted every which way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sorry it doesn't meet your standard for identifying which weird ideology prompted this dudes actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* "My" standard? It doesn't meet the standard of your source either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 days ago (1 child) The "Groyper" shit was a myth spread to counter the growing narrative that the shooter was transgender. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Endgame@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago They found bullets which he inscribed 4chan memes onto. Including a very specific "Groyper War" reference. His father that was the one who reported him in the first place said he hated Kirk for "not being conservative enough". .....You all think the idea of Nazi infighting is so weird because you were taught that America swooped in and saved the world from Nazi Germany and not the reality that the Red Army and the Nazis murdering each other to rise through the ranks took out half the Nazis by the time of D-Day. But I assure you, infighting is baked right into the ideology of fascism. Even IDF soldiers are prone to "friendly fire". (Although with them it's likely just incompetence.....) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago He is? Well god damnit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 5 points 5 days ago* (1 child) No he was a former groyper who converted into a liberal after crushing on a trans person in real life and realizing he was lied to. You can literally read his text messages, he talks about what a hateful evil POS Chahley was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) "figuring out that Kirk is a POS" is clear "converting into a liberal after crushing on a trans person"? is a massive stretch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) Like I said you can read his messages. He went through a huge transformation after meeting this person and realizing she was just a normal human being. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) That would still be described as "did it because Kirk would deride a person he now liked" not "did it because he got converted into a liberal". You're not suddenly a liberal because you have a relationship with an LGBT person or figured out that they're human. There's little to no evidence to show he was invested in political ideologies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) "figuring out that Kirk is a POS" is clear "converting into a liberal after crushing on a trans person"? is a massive stretch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) Like I said you can read his messages. He went through a huge transformation after meeting this person and realizing she was just a normal human being. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) That would still be described as "did it because Kirk would deride a person he now liked" not "did it because he got converted into a liberal". You're not suddenly a liberal because you have a relationship with an LGBT person or figured out that they're human. There's little to no evidence to show he was invested in political ideologies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) Like I said you can read his messages. He went through a huge transformation after meeting this person and realizing she was just a normal human being. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) That would still be described as "did it because Kirk would deride a person he now liked" not "did it because he got converted into a liberal". You're not suddenly a liberal because you have a relationship with an LGBT person or figured out that they're human. There's little to no evidence to show he was invested in political ideologies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) That would still be described as "did it because Kirk would deride a person he now liked" not "did it because he got converted into a liberal". You're not suddenly a liberal because you have a relationship with an LGBT person or figured out that they're human. There's little to no evidence to show he was invested in political ideologies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* Merks Kirk > Posts edgy memes He would've more than balanced the scales, if he was guilty....which he's not, as it was obviously an Israeli op. If you don't believe me, just listen the Gospel of Klandace. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) i'm gonna need a source on that, this is something i haven't heard yet and it sounds too wild to be true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 6 points 6 days ago (1 child) https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/charlie-kirk-and-tyler-robinson-came-from-the-same-warped-online-worlds permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 child) That's no meaningful proof that he's a groyper, even the article admits it: In isolation, the references are vague enough to be interpreted every which way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sorry it doesn't meet your standard for identifying which weird ideology prompted this dudes actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* "My" standard? It doesn't meet the standard of your source either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 6 points 6 days ago (1 child) https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/charlie-kirk-and-tyler-robinson-came-from-the-same-warped-online-worlds permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 child) That's no meaningful proof that he's a groyper, even the article admits it: In isolation, the references are vague enough to be interpreted every which way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sorry it doesn't meet your standard for identifying which weird ideology prompted this dudes actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* "My" standard? It doesn't meet the standard of your source either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antonim@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 child) That's no meaningful proof that he's a groyper, even the article admits it: In isolation, the references are vague enough to be interpreted every which way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sorry it doesn't meet your standard for identifying which weird ideology prompted this dudes actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* "My" standard? It doesn't meet the standard of your source either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sorry it doesn't meet your standard for identifying which weird ideology prompted this dudes actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* "My" standard? It doesn't meet the standard of your source either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* "My" standard? It doesn't meet the standard of your source either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 days ago (1 child) The "Groyper" shit was a myth spread to counter the growing narrative that the shooter was transgender. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Endgame@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago They found bullets which he inscribed 4chan memes onto. Including a very specific "Groyper War" reference. His father that was the one who reported him in the first place said he hated Kirk for "not being conservative enough". .....You all think the idea of Nazi infighting is so weird because you were taught that America swooped in and saved the world from Nazi Germany and not the reality that the Red Army and the Nazis murdering each other to rise through the ranks took out half the Nazis by the time of D-Day. But I assure you, infighting is baked right into the ideology of fascism. Even IDF soldiers are prone to "friendly fire". (Although with them it's likely just incompetence.....) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Endgame@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago They found bullets which he inscribed 4chan memes onto. Including a very specific "Groyper War" reference. His father that was the one who reported him in the first place said he hated Kirk for "not being conservative enough". .....You all think the idea of Nazi infighting is so weird because you were taught that America swooped in and saved the world from Nazi Germany and not the reality that the Red Army and the Nazis murdering each other to rise through the ranks took out half the Nazis by the time of D-Day. But I assure you, infighting is baked right into the ideology of fascism. Even IDF soldiers are prone to "friendly fire". (Although with them it's likely just incompetence.....) permalink fedilink source parent