Avoiding US goods and services – from tech to whisky to air travel – has forced many to find a new way of living

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[–] 1 point 3 days ago (3 children)

NVIDIA, AMD, Qualcomm all fab in Taiwan, not in the USA. Intel has some US fab facilities, but increasingly also fabs in Taiwan. Those same fabs make other chips now. Chips from companies NOT owned by the US.

My Android is ages old and Google never got any money for it anyway since my particular phone vendor isn't in its developer circle that gets the latest and greatest from their surveillance machinery. Instead they took the bare-bones public-facing Android and wrote their own system on top of it. It's AINO.

Now to be fair my computer has an Intel processor, but since I got it in about 2015 or 2016, it's not exactly like Intel's getting any money from me on that either now, is it? My next computer will be running HarmonyOS with, likely, one of the larger Kirin chips from Huawei at the core. As will my next phone. So the next time I actually put money out for hardware, I will be completely de-Americanized: Chinese phone running a Chinese operating system, Chinese computer running a Chinese operating system (or Linux (or both)). Not a single fucking cent will flow the USA's way.

I know it hurts the poor little fee fees of Yankee Doodles, but the USA is not indispensable any longer and hasn't been for well over a decade, maybe even two. And as your Orange Orangutan pisses off more and more of the world, it will become an ever increasing social, political, and economic backwater of people jacking off to their own perceived greatness while the rest of the world moves on.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago*

    Che Banana @beehaw.org

    Sure but those companies you mentioned are American companies it doesn't matter where they are made. All those companies you mentioned which are all American still profit Or the boycott is wrong and who cars since most of it is made in China and by your logic that is OK.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    Sure, man.
    If Huawei were to release a Laptop without Bluetooth, without Wifi, without HDMI, without H.264 or H.265, and without any other US patented Tech and without any paid US Software anywhere inside their supply chain, not a single cent would flow to the US.
    But that's not the case yet, so we still have to keep on dreaming.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    Spotted the MAGA plant. "It's all hopeless! You might as well not do it!"

    Go back to tasting shoe leather. Fuck off out of here.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Nah, man. I hate the American Dominance as much as the next guy. I'm just telling you to be realistic. There is no independence from US Tech yet. We will reach that some day and I will be glad but right now it is not feasible.
    You got to get your mindset in check. If you call anyone a MAGA plant that corrects you, there's something wrong with how you see the world.
    I also never said that we should not do anything about it, that's just something you put into my mouth. I want people to get off American Tech, why do you think I'm here on Lemmy? But saying that not a single cent will go to the US is just factually wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    This is what a fight between a liberal and a centrist looks like in the US.

    The centrist argues they are doing absolutely everything they can to stop Trump. The liberal says, "in addition to stopping Trump,vwe should be fighting to stop funding Israel from genociding Palestine, and maybe healthcare for all."

    The centrist, being the fucking idiot they are, plugs their ears and says, "LALALA I'm doing absolutely everything I can to stop Trump. I have absolutely no more capacity to learn anything so that I can more effectively fight Trump because I'm privileged and if I learn anything then in my mind I will not be perfectly fighting Trump."

    And honestly? At this point, Centrists are to blame for Trump just as much as MAGA. Look at the record of Centrists losing to MAGA.

    The guy you're replying to is doing a lot, right now, and that's a good thing. Just like the centrists were doing a lot 10 years ago. But time forges on, and so should our standards. Raising standards certainly isn't something MAGA would do.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (2 children)

    I never disputed that this person might be doing much. I only disputed that they said it would be easy living US Free. Which, in the Tech Sector it is not.
    This is not a political debate, this is about facts of patents, dependencies and supply chains.

    Hell, this guy has the guts to say that living US free is easy and then goes to work every day to work on a windows machine. It apparently is not easy

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    What is even more weird by their logic it is easy to live American free cause if anything is not manufactured in the US then it is not American. I mean that makes it very easy.

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