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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3320637

YouTube and Reddit are sued for allegedly enabling the racist mass shooting in Buffalo that left 10 dead::The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (30 children)

This is so so stupid. We should also sue the ISPs then, they enabled the use of YouTube and Reddit. And the phone provider for enabling communications. This is such a dangerous slippery slope to put any blame on the platforms.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think to blame/sue the company that is nearest to the user should work fine. (following is hyperbolical) If you don't do it that way, then yes it would be slippery because the big bang would need to be sued. But that makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So if an attack is planned via mail you think we should sue the postal service? The phone company if it's done over the phone?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, because these things should be private. Social media however needs some kind of moderation. edit: also go blame the user too, but that should be a given

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think just the poster should suffice, we should leave the platforms out of it. If anything, it helps to out the assholes who would post stuff that enables this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Blocking a user and removing content from a platform should be relatively easy and fast which should prevent organized crimes. Sueing someone afterwords takes way more resources and time.

But a platform can remove content without getting sued. Why sue them too? Because if you don't sue their asses they don't care.

Of course moderation takes time and can't be perfect and this should be considered when suing the platform owners. And yes this could help the assholes, but I think you can report such behavior to the fbi or someone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Change mail (private) to moderated public notice board (not private). The owner of the public notice board should probably be sued for allowing the content to stay up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If my buddies and spend a month plotting a crimer in my cousin's spare room, the cousin would be complicit since he knowingly allowed us to use his property for a criminal conspiracy. The USPS doesn't know what i am sending in the mail since they are a common carrier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Actually, they'd just try to seize his house, since proving his complicity is more challenging than proving that the house was used for the planning of a crime.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Is the postal service intentionally increasing mail to people interested in attacks by people messaging that attacks are necessary? If the postal service is doing that to increase the total postal volume, then yes, we should.

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