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As Ubuntu embraces AI, Debian discusses banning all AI-generated code (www.xda-developers.com)
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[–] 126 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I like this attitude. I think if the LLMs weren't forced down everyone throats, there would be a lot less hostility towards them

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  • [–] 108 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    It’s just so suspiciously and aggressively being shoved down our throats.

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  • [–] 66 points 5 days ago* (3 children)

    Yes, it's not the technology I hate, it's the people pushing it, demanding it, saying it will replace humans. Those people can fuck right off. Technology exists to serve humans, not the other way around. We are being sold a lie. The technology has some interesting aspects, but the pushers are pushing bullshit.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Alright. Hang the fuck on.

    Class war.

    Technology is incapable of doing anything. It literally can do nothing. It can be used as a tool for sure.

    It's currently being used to fuck you. It's fucking me. It's fucking us.

    BUT ONLY AT THE DIRECTION OF BILLIONAIRES

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    Tools are labour made solid. They're built by workers, and used by other workers in order to be more productive. Unlike a worker, a tool can be owned, which is why the owner class will always prefer more of the "skill" in production come from tools and processes, even at the cost of some craft or quality. Because they get more control.

    Anyway LLMs are like a knowledge tool in this case. A truly devastating weapon in the class war, assuming workers agree to adopt it and help improve it.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    assuming workers agree to adopt it and help improve it.

    Or forced by their employer by threat of homelessness

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    it’s the people pushing it, demanding it, saying it will replace humans

    I do hate these people but at least they self-identify as idiots.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Why? AI and technology in general absolutely replaces human labor. For me, the hate is that is coming extremely rapidly and there is little thought from anyone about what's going to be next. A post scarcity society is inching ever closer, and individuals are just pissed about the system, governments can't do anything, and the owners are figuring out how to monetize it all. Seems like we are cooked if we don't all start working on ideas of what society looks like when very few need to actually 'work', or a larger portion of society cannot work. Because even without AI or technological advancements, the population is rapidly aging and simply will not be able to work.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Gen AI is not going to replace humans.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 days ago

    It already is, especially at the entry level, which is a massive problem. You went to college, have the education but don't have the skills, and an AI bot can do essentially 80% of your work, with little of the cost. Think about all the people already putting websites, marketing, images together that otherwise you would need to pay someone for. No need to pay for them, even if they do a better job, because most of the time you aren't looking for 100% when 80% will do. That's the unfortunate reality that we all live in.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    Technology has always replaced humans though. That's ultimately the point. The problem becomes when there aren't alternatives for humans to do but we still live in a capitalistic and consumeristic society.

    I think everyone want's their lives to be easier, but they also want to be able to eat, survive and thrive.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    They want to make everybody dependent upon AI for information that will then be used to misinform people in order to control them.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    I've been saying this for years. Look at taxi's. In my city in 2005 there were 8 major taxi companies. Each with hundreds of drivers on the road at any given time. Now we have 2 of those 8 remaining, and they're essentially shell companies with 2-3 drivers on the road. The last 4 times I've tried ordering a cab the traditional way, I've been told there's no drivers available. Now it's all Uber. And Lyft. You can't call them. You need a cell phone, and you need internet access.

    All the major corporations are in agreement that we all need cell phones, and we all need to be tracked 24/7. And now with AI, they're getting their data straight from the source. There are men out there who talk to an AI girlfriend. Not sexy stuff. I mean imagine sitting at the dinner table, and discussing your day.....with your AI girlfriend. Meanwhile, ALL that data is going straight to the companies that host the AI.

    Another side effect is that AI will make people dumber. In case you haven't noticed since the 1970s, there has been a GOP push to make the citizens dumber and dumber. Easier to control. Easier to fool. Easier to get away with things.

    So now you got ram being sold for computers that haven't been built yet, to be put in data centers that haven't been built yet, to run an AI system that isn't functional yet, in order to steal the jobs of employees that can't be replaced yet, all in an effort to chase profits that were never possible in the first place since everyone hates AI.

    You wanna see some shit go down? Tell the companies we'll use their AI if they get the unredacted epstein files released. See how fast they bribe the right people then.

    Now tell the politicians we'll stop caring about the epstein files if they forcibly ban all data centers in the country. See how fast they act on that.

    Now we sit back, wait, and watch the fireworks. Oh, and by the way, we're going back on our word either way. Whomever wins, fuck em.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I mean imagine sitting at the dinner table, and discussing your day…..with your AI girlfriend.

    I'm trying to imagine what this might be like. How sexy voice and vapid is AI girlfriend?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago

    I mean at this point people are looking for connections, so that bot who will do basically whatever you say and stroke your ego, sure seems like something 'better' than actually going out and being rejected. There likely is going to be a point in the future where people have more 'augmented friendships' than actual friendships.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Nonsense. This is one of those malice / incompetence things.

    Everything we're seeing can be described by dumb / lazy / greedy management and greedy venture capitalists.

    No one actually has a plan to make everyone dependent on AI with the intent to control them. The intent is to harvest value from them.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    I find it all very "people writing text/code by hand on a computer they own isn't generating subscription revenue and can't be data mined by advertisers and governments as it's passing through a data center unencrypted"-type suspicious...

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    If big tech corners the market, we have no choice but to come to them for compute. You can stifle speech, control markets, awareness of new developments before they’re public.

    It’s a power grab.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    For me, it's first and foremost how they were/are trained and who gets all the profits/benefits.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Yup, of free and open self-hostable ones I am a lot more accepting, but I need big corpos to all crash and burn.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago

    Yeah this goes for copyright protections too. I could give a fuck about some sloperater generating Tony Stark giving Mickey Mouse a handjob, but corpos saving even $0.01 from a model tuned by scraping deviantart, other amateur sources, I can't abide.

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