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[–] 92 points 1 month ago (50 children)

Also like, we famously have very many heritages.

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  • [–] 64 points 1 month ago (42 children)

    Our whole heritage is being a melting pot of every heritage mixed together. Blood nationalism makes ZERO sense whatsoever.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (40 children)

    Actually your heritage is that of native American genocide, centuries of African slavery, and then countless illegal wars of aggression.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Thats the heritage of most countries with European settler/colonial histories.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    And? You want to widen the discussion or try and derail it?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    You "well ackshually!" the same America Evil lines and then accuse the other commenter of derailing the conversation? Thats funny.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    Melting pot? I wouldn't call it that. More like a 70s jell-o salad: all the ingredients are visible, but separate. There's alarmingly little miscegenation in the US. Go anywhere in Latin America and you can see true melting pots.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    How many of them were granted human rights for the majority of the country's history, lol?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Very few, that doesn't take away from the fact that we're still a nation of immigrants and should reject the lie of a unified American heritage.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Genocidal settler-colonialism is not "immigration", and neither is being enslaved and transported over the Atlantic ocean.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    There are plenty of folks who came over after the bulk of the genocide was largely done. Don't think an Italian coming over in the 1910s had fuck all to do with the Native American genocide.

    But even ignoring that you are assuming that this is all a black and white situation when people are rarely that. For example the early Scots-Irish population in Appalachia generally got along well enough with native Americans often times even mixing together, you could also have the later Irish immigrants from the Irish genocide by the English inflicting the same fate apon Native Americans in the great planes.

    Hell my own ancestors did seemingly contradictory shit as being slavers while murdering people for being bigots against Native Americans. Only for a generation later to be fighting for the abolishment of slavery and arming natives while really fucking hating newer Anglo settlers to the point of commiting hate crimes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    There are plenty of folks who came over after the bulk of the genocide was largely done. Don’t think an Italian coming over in the 1910s had fuck all to do with the Native American genocide.

    The US did not stop at that genocide.

    But even ignoring that you are assuming that this is all a black and white situation when people are rarely that. For example the early Scots-Irish population in Appalachia generally got along well enough with native Americans often times even mixing together, you could also have the later Irish immigrants from the Irish genocide by the English inflicting the same fate apon Native Americans in the great planes.

    And yet, what the (pre-)USians were doing was still predominantly a settler-colonial genocide, regardless of whether there were a few nice exceptions.

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