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This phrase has been chosen (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 91 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Also like, we famously have very many heritages.

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  • [–] 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Our whole heritage is being a melting pot of every heritage mixed together. Blood nationalism makes ZERO sense whatsoever.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Actually your heritage is that of native American genocide, centuries of African slavery, and then countless illegal wars of aggression.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Thats the heritage of most countries with European settler/colonial histories.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    And? You want to widen the discussion or try and derail it?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    You "well ackshually!" the same America Evil lines and then accuse the other commenter of derailing the conversation? Thats funny.

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  • [+] -11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    .ml account

    Opinion discarded!

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Basing the value of a response on the user's Lemmy instance has to be amongst the stupidest forms of tribalism in human history.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Noting that valueless responses constantly emerge from a certain lemmy instance is simply pattern recognition!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    context pls

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

    There's a pretty good chance that user will, in the same breath, go: Jefferson bad, Stalin good. Because authoritarians and genocides perpetrated by entities pretending to be communist are somehow excusable.

    Edit: I rest my case. You'll notice their immediate jump to whataboutism, strawman arguments, and childish demands for you to research why their "nuh uh" is wrong.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago

    This guy must have something wrong with them.

    This comment is literally whataboutism, they clearly don't understand what a straw an argument is, and the childish demands are us simply asking for him to explain himself.

    What a joke, lol.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Genocidal slavers like Jefferson are, indeed, bad.
    Not sure why a person took part in massively improving the rights and living conditions of the working class and fighting against the original nazis should be considered bad in comparison with enthusiastic slavers.

    Just admit it - you only said that because you have been bombarded your whole life with propaganda about how the most vile polity in the world is somehow good, while Stalin is somehow bad for some reason.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Two things can both be bad. This is what you mls never seem to grasp.

    And It's not for some reason. He killed so many people. No one can take you seriously when you praise a monster like Stalin.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Two things can both be bad.

    They can, but they aren't in this case.

    And It’s not for some reason. He killed so many people.

    Killing nazis is not a bad thing, actually. Nor were they 'his own people'.

    No one can take you seriously when you praise a monster like Stalin.

    You are yet to actually explain why he is supposedly such a 'monster'. Just admit that your sole source of information on Stalin has been memes from the same people that sold you on Iraq's WMDs.
    And no, again, killing nazis is not a bad thing.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Stalin saved Europe from the Nazis. Is that not good to you?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (2 children)

    Lol, called it.

    You guys really love to ignore his genocide of his own countrymen.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    You never answered the question. You don't think that he did good by saving Europe from Nazi extermination?

    The second thing: You mean the last famine that ever happened in a famine prone region, lol?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I don't care about your attempts to derail the conversation and provide cover for a monster.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    ???

    You literally brought up Stalin, lmfao. You were the one trying to derail the conversation.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (2 children)

    I gave a flippant comment about how absurd ml delusions are and you, who were not part of the conversation, decided to step in and prove me right by demanding answers to questions defending your genocidal hero as if it's remotely relevant to the actual thread.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    Weirdly enough, no actual experts on these topic can point to any supposed genocide that he committed. The only people who assert so are the ones who get their knowledge of history from unsubstantiated memes.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    .ml users have a pretty poor reputation in the fediverse as braindead ideologues who swarm and spam posts that don't jive with their beliefs. It's like having a neighbor constantly chucking dogshit over the fence and blaming you for the smell XD

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  • [–] -2 points 3 days ago

    Kind of silly to call people that keep being proven correct, and whose ideology(ies) are related to the world getting things like 8-hour working day, women getting basic rights, and decolonisation as 'braindead'.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    That's not an opinion, lmao.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago

    Melting pot? I wouldn't call it that. More like a 70s jell-o salad: all the ingredients are visible, but separate. There's alarmingly little miscegenation in the US. Go anywhere in Latin America and you can see true melting pots.

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