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[+] Sly2@lemmy.world -35 points 14 hours ago (4 children) Ppl just replaced "Jew" with "Zionist", Antisemitism just got rebranded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 59 minutes ago For the vast majority of people, no they didn't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago (1 child) Mind you, this has been actively promoted by Israel and several major NGOs who have been arguing (incorrectly) for decades that Israel and Judaism are essentially identical. That doesn't make it true but it's still a meme (in the sociological sense) that has been well established for quite some time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sly2@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children) Antisemitism is as old as time and it's getting a push from several sides. I defend none of the players in the middle east, antisemitism has gotten an enormous boost through social media (here on lemmy too.) the only effect is that as a normal jewish person you get confronted even more with all types of hate and prejudice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 12 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago Genocide denying Hasbarist or just ignorant? Because there's more Evangelical Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists, and many if not most prominent Anti-Zionists are Jewish people themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago That is true, but that is not at all what I got from this comment. The context in the meme is someone assuming a jewish steroetype. The comment was contuing that line of false assumptions and connecting it to current affairs. The joke being that mainstream (right wing) media is often replacing "jew" with "zionist" like it's the most normal thing inthe world, while in fact it is not, as you and others have pointed out. The current affair in question is obviously the war in israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 59 minutes ago For the vast majority of people, no they didn't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago (1 child) Mind you, this has been actively promoted by Israel and several major NGOs who have been arguing (incorrectly) for decades that Israel and Judaism are essentially identical. That doesn't make it true but it's still a meme (in the sociological sense) that has been well established for quite some time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sly2@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children) Antisemitism is as old as time and it's getting a push from several sides. I defend none of the players in the middle east, antisemitism has gotten an enormous boost through social media (here on lemmy too.) the only effect is that as a normal jewish person you get confronted even more with all types of hate and prejudice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 12 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sly2@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children) Antisemitism is as old as time and it's getting a push from several sides. I defend none of the players in the middle east, antisemitism has gotten an enormous boost through social media (here on lemmy too.) the only effect is that as a normal jewish person you get confronted even more with all types of hate and prejudice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 12 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 12 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago Genocide denying Hasbarist or just ignorant? Because there's more Evangelical Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists, and many if not most prominent Anti-Zionists are Jewish people themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago That is true, but that is not at all what I got from this comment. The context in the meme is someone assuming a jewish steroetype. The comment was contuing that line of false assumptions and connecting it to current affairs. The joke being that mainstream (right wing) media is often replacing "jew" with "zionist" like it's the most normal thing inthe world, while in fact it is not, as you and others have pointed out. The current affair in question is obviously the war in israel. permalink fedilink source parent
