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[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 101 points 16 hours ago* (2 children) How fucking hard is it to understand that not all Jewish people are pro-genocide zionists? Get it through your thick skull. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] maniel@sopuli.xyz -31 points 16 hours ago (3 children) sorry, i thought it's memes community and we're joking here, maybe get that stick out of your ass? I'm perfectly aware that not every Jew is pro-genocide, just like not every Jew is a business man with money (like on the picture), i also differentiate between Jews and Zionists, like the guy in the other comment, i'm pro Palestine but i also follow some Hasidic Jews online, so i'm perfectly aware Jews are a diverse group of people with multiple world views permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 point 19 minutes ago oh wow, a wild Schrödinger's Douchebag! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cypher@aussie.zone 18 points 14 hours ago (4 children) If that's your idea of a joke you have a shit sense of humor but we all know you weren't joking and you're a cockroach scurrying away with your lame joke defence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children) OP joke was from the same category. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child) The OP is about a crazy rando in the wild making the “joke”, not making the joke themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago (1 child) He reposted it in this sub. What was the purpose if not for amusement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Not amusement at the idea that all Jews are good at making money. Amusement at the idea that someone would say that on a dating app. In the case of the parent comment here, the amusement is supposed to come directly from the stereotype. It’s a matter of first person vs third person perspective. “Haha I’m racist” vs “Check out this racist over here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 point 8 hours ago Fair enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child) OP has no joke, it's a picture of a picture permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago .. Which is posted as a joke (considering theme of the sub) permalink fedilink source parent [–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -4 points 11 hours ago* yeah, that's what i'm trying to say, but guess there are still some things you shouldn't joke about, chas v'sholom permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com -4 points 11 hours ago Careful guys, he’s getting mad. Might start genociding. You know the type. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 13 hours ago There it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -3 points 14 hours ago* cockroach scurrying away with your lame joke defence. LOL🤣 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net -3 points 11 hours ago (2 children) Jew Jew Jews Jews Jews Say the whole word once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago Say the whole word once. ....Jewy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 11 hours ago* (1 child) Then you have to tack on “person” to each instance, adding 3 syllables each time. That would have been 15 extra syllables for no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 0 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Did I say every time? Or did I say once? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) You’re right, you said once. So just 3 extra syllables for no reason. It’s not like they were saying “The Jews”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 hour ago* (1 child) It's not for no reason, Kevin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 1 hour ago* Obviously. The reason is to imply that saying “Jew” instead of “Jewish person” is antisemitic, which it isn’t, Cletus. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sly2@lemmy.world -37 points 16 hours ago (4 children) Ppl just replaced "Jew" with "Zionist", Antisemitism just got rebranded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago For the vast majority of people, no they didn't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 37 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Mind you, this has been actively promoted by Israel and several major NGOs who have been arguing (incorrectly) for decades that Israel and Judaism are essentially identical. That doesn't make it true but it's still a meme (in the sociological sense) that has been well established for quite some time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sly2@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children) Antisemitism is as old as time and it's getting a push from several sides. I defend none of the players in the middle east, antisemitism has gotten an enormous boost through social media (here on lemmy too.) the only effect is that as a normal jewish person you get confronted even more with all types of hate and prejudice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 13 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago Genocide denying Hasbarist or just ignorant? Because there's more Evangelical Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists, and many if not most prominent Anti-Zionists are Jewish people themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago That is true, but that is not at all what I got from this comment. The context in the meme is someone assuming a jewish steroetype. The comment was contuing that line of false assumptions and connecting it to current affairs. The joke being that mainstream (right wing) media is often replacing "jew" with "zionist" like it's the most normal thing inthe world, while in fact it is not, as you and others have pointed out. The current affair in question is obviously the war in israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] maniel@sopuli.xyz -31 points 16 hours ago (3 children) sorry, i thought it's memes community and we're joking here, maybe get that stick out of your ass? I'm perfectly aware that not every Jew is pro-genocide, just like not every Jew is a business man with money (like on the picture), i also differentiate between Jews and Zionists, like the guy in the other comment, i'm pro Palestine but i also follow some Hasidic Jews online, so i'm perfectly aware Jews are a diverse group of people with multiple world views permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 point 19 minutes ago oh wow, a wild Schrödinger's Douchebag! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cypher@aussie.zone 18 points 14 hours ago (4 children) If that's your idea of a joke you have a shit sense of humor but we all know you weren't joking and you're a cockroach scurrying away with your lame joke defence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children) OP joke was from the same category. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child) The OP is about a crazy rando in the wild making the “joke”, not making the joke themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago (1 child) He reposted it in this sub. What was the purpose if not for amusement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Not amusement at the idea that all Jews are good at making money. Amusement at the idea that someone would say that on a dating app. In the case of the parent comment here, the amusement is supposed to come directly from the stereotype. It’s a matter of first person vs third person perspective. “Haha I’m racist” vs “Check out this racist over here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 point 8 hours ago Fair enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child) OP has no joke, it's a picture of a picture permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago .. Which is posted as a joke (considering theme of the sub) permalink fedilink source parent [–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -4 points 11 hours ago* yeah, that's what i'm trying to say, but guess there are still some things you shouldn't joke about, chas v'sholom permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com -4 points 11 hours ago Careful guys, he’s getting mad. Might start genociding. You know the type. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 13 hours ago There it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -3 points 14 hours ago* cockroach scurrying away with your lame joke defence. LOL🤣 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net -3 points 11 hours ago (2 children) Jew Jew Jews Jews Jews Say the whole word once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago Say the whole word once. ....Jewy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 11 hours ago* (1 child) Then you have to tack on “person” to each instance, adding 3 syllables each time. That would have been 15 extra syllables for no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 0 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Did I say every time? Or did I say once? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) You’re right, you said once. So just 3 extra syllables for no reason. It’s not like they were saying “The Jews”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 hour ago* (1 child) It's not for no reason, Kevin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 1 hour ago* Obviously. The reason is to imply that saying “Jew” instead of “Jewish person” is antisemitic, which it isn’t, Cletus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 point 19 minutes ago oh wow, a wild Schrödinger's Douchebag! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 18 points 14 hours ago (4 children) If that's your idea of a joke you have a shit sense of humor but we all know you weren't joking and you're a cockroach scurrying away with your lame joke defence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children) OP joke was from the same category. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child) The OP is about a crazy rando in the wild making the “joke”, not making the joke themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago (1 child) He reposted it in this sub. What was the purpose if not for amusement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Not amusement at the idea that all Jews are good at making money. Amusement at the idea that someone would say that on a dating app. In the case of the parent comment here, the amusement is supposed to come directly from the stereotype. It’s a matter of first person vs third person perspective. “Haha I’m racist” vs “Check out this racist over here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 point 8 hours ago Fair enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child) OP has no joke, it's a picture of a picture permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago .. Which is posted as a joke (considering theme of the sub) permalink fedilink source parent [–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -4 points 11 hours ago* yeah, that's what i'm trying to say, but guess there are still some things you shouldn't joke about, chas v'sholom permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com -4 points 11 hours ago Careful guys, he’s getting mad. Might start genociding. You know the type. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 13 hours ago There it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -3 points 14 hours ago* cockroach scurrying away with your lame joke defence. LOL🤣 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children) OP joke was from the same category. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child) The OP is about a crazy rando in the wild making the “joke”, not making the joke themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago (1 child) He reposted it in this sub. What was the purpose if not for amusement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Not amusement at the idea that all Jews are good at making money. Amusement at the idea that someone would say that on a dating app. In the case of the parent comment here, the amusement is supposed to come directly from the stereotype. It’s a matter of first person vs third person perspective. “Haha I’m racist” vs “Check out this racist over here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 point 8 hours ago Fair enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child) OP has no joke, it's a picture of a picture permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago .. Which is posted as a joke (considering theme of the sub) permalink fedilink source parent [–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -4 points 11 hours ago* yeah, that's what i'm trying to say, but guess there are still some things you shouldn't joke about, chas v'sholom permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child) The OP is about a crazy rando in the wild making the “joke”, not making the joke themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago (1 child) He reposted it in this sub. What was the purpose if not for amusement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Not amusement at the idea that all Jews are good at making money. Amusement at the idea that someone would say that on a dating app. In the case of the parent comment here, the amusement is supposed to come directly from the stereotype. It’s a matter of first person vs third person perspective. “Haha I’m racist” vs “Check out this racist over here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 point 8 hours ago Fair enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago (1 child) He reposted it in this sub. What was the purpose if not for amusement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Not amusement at the idea that all Jews are good at making money. Amusement at the idea that someone would say that on a dating app. In the case of the parent comment here, the amusement is supposed to come directly from the stereotype. It’s a matter of first person vs third person perspective. “Haha I’m racist” vs “Check out this racist over here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 point 8 hours ago Fair enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starik@lemmy.today 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Not amusement at the idea that all Jews are good at making money. Amusement at the idea that someone would say that on a dating app. In the case of the parent comment here, the amusement is supposed to come directly from the stereotype. It’s a matter of first person vs third person perspective. “Haha I’m racist” vs “Check out this racist over here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 point 8 hours ago Fair enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child) OP has no joke, it's a picture of a picture permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago .. Which is posted as a joke (considering theme of the sub) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago .. Which is posted as a joke (considering theme of the sub) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -4 points 11 hours ago* yeah, that's what i'm trying to say, but guess there are still some things you shouldn't joke about, chas v'sholom permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com -4 points 11 hours ago Careful guys, he’s getting mad. Might start genociding. You know the type. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 13 hours ago There it is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maniel@sopuli.xyz -3 points 14 hours ago* cockroach scurrying away with your lame joke defence. LOL🤣 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net -3 points 11 hours ago (2 children) Jew Jew Jews Jews Jews Say the whole word once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago Say the whole word once. ....Jewy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 11 hours ago* (1 child) Then you have to tack on “person” to each instance, adding 3 syllables each time. That would have been 15 extra syllables for no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 0 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Did I say every time? Or did I say once? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) You’re right, you said once. So just 3 extra syllables for no reason. It’s not like they were saying “The Jews”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 hour ago* (1 child) It's not for no reason, Kevin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 1 hour ago* Obviously. The reason is to imply that saying “Jew” instead of “Jewish person” is antisemitic, which it isn’t, Cletus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago Say the whole word once. ....Jewy? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 11 hours ago* (1 child) Then you have to tack on “person” to each instance, adding 3 syllables each time. That would have been 15 extra syllables for no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 0 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Did I say every time? Or did I say once? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) You’re right, you said once. So just 3 extra syllables for no reason. It’s not like they were saying “The Jews”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 hour ago* (1 child) It's not for no reason, Kevin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 1 hour ago* Obviously. The reason is to imply that saying “Jew” instead of “Jewish person” is antisemitic, which it isn’t, Cletus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 0 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Did I say every time? Or did I say once? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) You’re right, you said once. So just 3 extra syllables for no reason. It’s not like they were saying “The Jews”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 hour ago* (1 child) It's not for no reason, Kevin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 1 hour ago* Obviously. The reason is to imply that saying “Jew” instead of “Jewish person” is antisemitic, which it isn’t, Cletus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) You’re right, you said once. So just 3 extra syllables for no reason. It’s not like they were saying “The Jews”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 hour ago* (1 child) It's not for no reason, Kevin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 1 hour ago* Obviously. The reason is to imply that saying “Jew” instead of “Jewish person” is antisemitic, which it isn’t, Cletus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 hour ago* (1 child) It's not for no reason, Kevin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 1 hour ago* Obviously. The reason is to imply that saying “Jew” instead of “Jewish person” is antisemitic, which it isn’t, Cletus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starik@lemmy.today 1 point 1 hour ago* Obviously. The reason is to imply that saying “Jew” instead of “Jewish person” is antisemitic, which it isn’t, Cletus. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sly2@lemmy.world -37 points 16 hours ago (4 children) Ppl just replaced "Jew" with "Zionist", Antisemitism just got rebranded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago For the vast majority of people, no they didn't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 37 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Mind you, this has been actively promoted by Israel and several major NGOs who have been arguing (incorrectly) for decades that Israel and Judaism are essentially identical. That doesn't make it true but it's still a meme (in the sociological sense) that has been well established for quite some time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sly2@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children) Antisemitism is as old as time and it's getting a push from several sides. I defend none of the players in the middle east, antisemitism has gotten an enormous boost through social media (here on lemmy too.) the only effect is that as a normal jewish person you get confronted even more with all types of hate and prejudice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 13 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago Genocide denying Hasbarist or just ignorant? Because there's more Evangelical Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists, and many if not most prominent Anti-Zionists are Jewish people themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago That is true, but that is not at all what I got from this comment. The context in the meme is someone assuming a jewish steroetype. The comment was contuing that line of false assumptions and connecting it to current affairs. The joke being that mainstream (right wing) media is often replacing "jew" with "zionist" like it's the most normal thing inthe world, while in fact it is not, as you and others have pointed out. The current affair in question is obviously the war in israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago For the vast majority of people, no they didn't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 37 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Mind you, this has been actively promoted by Israel and several major NGOs who have been arguing (incorrectly) for decades that Israel and Judaism are essentially identical. That doesn't make it true but it's still a meme (in the sociological sense) that has been well established for quite some time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sly2@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children) Antisemitism is as old as time and it's getting a push from several sides. I defend none of the players in the middle east, antisemitism has gotten an enormous boost through social media (here on lemmy too.) the only effect is that as a normal jewish person you get confronted even more with all types of hate and prejudice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 13 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sly2@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children) Antisemitism is as old as time and it's getting a push from several sides. I defend none of the players in the middle east, antisemitism has gotten an enormous boost through social media (here on lemmy too.) the only effect is that as a normal jewish person you get confronted even more with all types of hate and prejudice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 13 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago Yes, absolutely. Antisemitism is pretty much the classical case for an entire group of people getting lumped together, othered, and loaded with all sorts of negative stereotypes that are then used as justification for actions against them. The point I wanted to contribute is that the state of Israel and its various advocacy groups have contributed significantly to this by continually arguing in bad faith that any criticism of their behavior is equivalent to antisemitism. This has established in the public conscience the incorrect notion that Israel represents all jews and that their actions reflect upon all of them. That was bad enough when Israel was locked in a morally complex struggle with the Palestinians. Plenty of shit happened then that many jews didn't agree with and weren't happy to be associated with via Israel's rhetoric. But now the conflict has escalated to a point where Israel's behavior goes well past any notion of acceptability. And the rhetoric that any criticism of this is antisemitic persists. Advocacy groups spend big money to convince the world that opposing the genocide in Gaza is equivalent to hating jews. Combine that with the onslaught of right-wing propaganda on social media and yeah, it's no wonder antisemitism is on the rise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 point 13 hours ago Antisemitism is as old as time Technically only as old as Jews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago Genocide denying Hasbarist or just ignorant? Because there's more Evangelical Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists, and many if not most prominent Anti-Zionists are Jewish people themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago That is true, but that is not at all what I got from this comment. The context in the meme is someone assuming a jewish steroetype. The comment was contuing that line of false assumptions and connecting it to current affairs. The joke being that mainstream (right wing) media is often replacing "jew" with "zionist" like it's the most normal thing inthe world, while in fact it is not, as you and others have pointed out. The current affair in question is obviously the war in israel. permalink fedilink source parent