โฒ 67 โผ No fucking way this mf just had an interview with the Haaretz! ๐ญ This is DemSoc praxis, I guess. (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 day ago by Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml to c/slop@hexbear.net 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2026-08-24/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/hasan-piker-talks-hamas-anti-zionism-and-why-americans-are-fed-up-with-israel/000001a0-29fd-d293-a1e7-39fdf95c0000 No paywall: https://archive.ph/NVmEi
[โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 16 points 22 hours ago (1 child) Hasan on Der Sturmer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 27 points 21 hours ago (1 child) If he was using it to argue anti-Nazi points as he is arguing antizionist points here, literally yes, but I'm not sure that the comparison makes sense because I don't think Der Sturmer would print it, just as I don't think most of the other major Israeli newspapers would print this interview. I read the interview and it has a lot of silly Zionist editorializing, but I think Hasan correctly estimated that it would allow him to present his case, even to the incredulity of both the narratorial and interviewing voice. I don't think the fact that there would ve Zionist editorializing is a reason not to do it so, that's what most of their articles have anyway, what their audience is reading anyway, the main difference is that what most of their audience does not get from the paper most of the time is people giving simple, clear descriptions of why Israel is a fundamentally malignant project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children) he is going there, to be convinced by the right wingers, he is becoming more reactionary and not the otherway around permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 22 points 20 hours ago (1 child) he is becoming more reactionary how? He was always kind of a radlib but I don't really see a shift in his tone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago (1 child) a few months ago he was supporting a Nazi war criminal SAer candidate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 14 points 20 hours ago (6 children) So did a lot of self proclaimed leftists, it was clearly a tactical error but I don't see that as evidence of him becoming more reactionary. Platner's platform by itself wasn't more reactionary than AOC's or any other mediocre socdem candidate. It's not exactly the first time he glazed a bad candidate, he gets caught up in electoralist bullshit regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago nobody should have supported a 4-time troop let alone a blackwater merc. and that was known before the reddit stuff, the tattoo, or the sex crimes against white women. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago tactical error permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago It was not just a tactical error, it was an ideological error. Candidates are much more than what they had someone write on their policy page. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago the tactical error of platforming a nazi, get out permalink fedilink source parent [โ] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago It was more about the incredibly heinous public personal history which could and would have been rejected by anyone with a shred of principle. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child) has AOC called for expanding the US military? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) "uhh who's similar to the Neo Nazi SAer who did 4 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq? let me think of the first brown liberal I could remember" Fuck AOC for being a lib, fuck her for talking about "defensive weapons of israel", but she wasn't on the field bombing Afghan kids, she doesn't having Nazi tattoos on her, she's not even remotely comparable to Captain Swastika over here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago* precisely permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago He is probably only going to be more reactionary, but it's because of the DNC, not fucking Haaretz. Why would Haaretz convince him of anything? They just gave the same dogwater talking points that he has been refuting for years. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 27 points 21 hours ago (1 child) If he was using it to argue anti-Nazi points as he is arguing antizionist points here, literally yes, but I'm not sure that the comparison makes sense because I don't think Der Sturmer would print it, just as I don't think most of the other major Israeli newspapers would print this interview. I read the interview and it has a lot of silly Zionist editorializing, but I think Hasan correctly estimated that it would allow him to present his case, even to the incredulity of both the narratorial and interviewing voice. I don't think the fact that there would ve Zionist editorializing is a reason not to do it so, that's what most of their articles have anyway, what their audience is reading anyway, the main difference is that what most of their audience does not get from the paper most of the time is people giving simple, clear descriptions of why Israel is a fundamentally malignant project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children) he is going there, to be convinced by the right wingers, he is becoming more reactionary and not the otherway around permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 22 points 20 hours ago (1 child) he is becoming more reactionary how? He was always kind of a radlib but I don't really see a shift in his tone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago (1 child) a few months ago he was supporting a Nazi war criminal SAer candidate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 14 points 20 hours ago (6 children) So did a lot of self proclaimed leftists, it was clearly a tactical error but I don't see that as evidence of him becoming more reactionary. Platner's platform by itself wasn't more reactionary than AOC's or any other mediocre socdem candidate. It's not exactly the first time he glazed a bad candidate, he gets caught up in electoralist bullshit regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago nobody should have supported a 4-time troop let alone a blackwater merc. and that was known before the reddit stuff, the tattoo, or the sex crimes against white women. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago tactical error permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago It was not just a tactical error, it was an ideological error. Candidates are much more than what they had someone write on their policy page. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago the tactical error of platforming a nazi, get out permalink fedilink source parent [โ] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago It was more about the incredibly heinous public personal history which could and would have been rejected by anyone with a shred of principle. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child) has AOC called for expanding the US military? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) "uhh who's similar to the Neo Nazi SAer who did 4 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq? let me think of the first brown liberal I could remember" Fuck AOC for being a lib, fuck her for talking about "defensive weapons of israel", but she wasn't on the field bombing Afghan kids, she doesn't having Nazi tattoos on her, she's not even remotely comparable to Captain Swastika over here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago* precisely permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago He is probably only going to be more reactionary, but it's because of the DNC, not fucking Haaretz. Why would Haaretz convince him of anything? They just gave the same dogwater talking points that he has been refuting for years. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children) he is going there, to be convinced by the right wingers, he is becoming more reactionary and not the otherway around permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 22 points 20 hours ago (1 child) he is becoming more reactionary how? He was always kind of a radlib but I don't really see a shift in his tone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago (1 child) a few months ago he was supporting a Nazi war criminal SAer candidate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 14 points 20 hours ago (6 children) So did a lot of self proclaimed leftists, it was clearly a tactical error but I don't see that as evidence of him becoming more reactionary. Platner's platform by itself wasn't more reactionary than AOC's or any other mediocre socdem candidate. It's not exactly the first time he glazed a bad candidate, he gets caught up in electoralist bullshit regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago nobody should have supported a 4-time troop let alone a blackwater merc. and that was known before the reddit stuff, the tattoo, or the sex crimes against white women. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago tactical error permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago It was not just a tactical error, it was an ideological error. Candidates are much more than what they had someone write on their policy page. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago the tactical error of platforming a nazi, get out permalink fedilink source parent [โ] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago It was more about the incredibly heinous public personal history which could and would have been rejected by anyone with a shred of principle. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child) has AOC called for expanding the US military? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) "uhh who's similar to the Neo Nazi SAer who did 4 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq? let me think of the first brown liberal I could remember" Fuck AOC for being a lib, fuck her for talking about "defensive weapons of israel", but she wasn't on the field bombing Afghan kids, she doesn't having Nazi tattoos on her, she's not even remotely comparable to Captain Swastika over here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago* precisely permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago He is probably only going to be more reactionary, but it's because of the DNC, not fucking Haaretz. Why would Haaretz convince him of anything? They just gave the same dogwater talking points that he has been refuting for years. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 22 points 20 hours ago (1 child) he is becoming more reactionary how? He was always kind of a radlib but I don't really see a shift in his tone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago (1 child) a few months ago he was supporting a Nazi war criminal SAer candidate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 14 points 20 hours ago (6 children) So did a lot of self proclaimed leftists, it was clearly a tactical error but I don't see that as evidence of him becoming more reactionary. Platner's platform by itself wasn't more reactionary than AOC's or any other mediocre socdem candidate. It's not exactly the first time he glazed a bad candidate, he gets caught up in electoralist bullshit regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago nobody should have supported a 4-time troop let alone a blackwater merc. and that was known before the reddit stuff, the tattoo, or the sex crimes against white women. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago tactical error permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago It was not just a tactical error, it was an ideological error. Candidates are much more than what they had someone write on their policy page. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago the tactical error of platforming a nazi, get out permalink fedilink source parent [โ] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago It was more about the incredibly heinous public personal history which could and would have been rejected by anyone with a shred of principle. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child) has AOC called for expanding the US military? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) "uhh who's similar to the Neo Nazi SAer who did 4 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq? let me think of the first brown liberal I could remember" Fuck AOC for being a lib, fuck her for talking about "defensive weapons of israel", but she wasn't on the field bombing Afghan kids, she doesn't having Nazi tattoos on her, she's not even remotely comparable to Captain Swastika over here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago* precisely permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago (1 child) a few months ago he was supporting a Nazi war criminal SAer candidate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 14 points 20 hours ago (6 children) So did a lot of self proclaimed leftists, it was clearly a tactical error but I don't see that as evidence of him becoming more reactionary. Platner's platform by itself wasn't more reactionary than AOC's or any other mediocre socdem candidate. It's not exactly the first time he glazed a bad candidate, he gets caught up in electoralist bullshit regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago nobody should have supported a 4-time troop let alone a blackwater merc. and that was known before the reddit stuff, the tattoo, or the sex crimes against white women. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago tactical error permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago It was not just a tactical error, it was an ideological error. Candidates are much more than what they had someone write on their policy page. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago the tactical error of platforming a nazi, get out permalink fedilink source parent [โ] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago It was more about the incredibly heinous public personal history which could and would have been rejected by anyone with a shred of principle. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child) has AOC called for expanding the US military? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) "uhh who's similar to the Neo Nazi SAer who did 4 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq? let me think of the first brown liberal I could remember" Fuck AOC for being a lib, fuck her for talking about "defensive weapons of israel", but she wasn't on the field bombing Afghan kids, she doesn't having Nazi tattoos on her, she's not even remotely comparable to Captain Swastika over here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago* precisely permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] space_comrade@hexbear.net 14 points 20 hours ago (6 children) So did a lot of self proclaimed leftists, it was clearly a tactical error but I don't see that as evidence of him becoming more reactionary. Platner's platform by itself wasn't more reactionary than AOC's or any other mediocre socdem candidate. It's not exactly the first time he glazed a bad candidate, he gets caught up in electoralist bullshit regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago nobody should have supported a 4-time troop let alone a blackwater merc. and that was known before the reddit stuff, the tattoo, or the sex crimes against white women. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago tactical error permalink fedilink source parent [โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago It was not just a tactical error, it was an ideological error. Candidates are much more than what they had someone write on their policy page. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago the tactical error of platforming a nazi, get out permalink fedilink source parent [โ] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago It was more about the incredibly heinous public personal history which could and would have been rejected by anyone with a shred of principle. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child) has AOC called for expanding the US military? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) "uhh who's similar to the Neo Nazi SAer who did 4 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq? let me think of the first brown liberal I could remember" Fuck AOC for being a lib, fuck her for talking about "defensive weapons of israel", but she wasn't on the field bombing Afghan kids, she doesn't having Nazi tattoos on her, she's not even remotely comparable to Captain Swastika over here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago* precisely permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago nobody should have supported a 4-time troop let alone a blackwater merc. and that was known before the reddit stuff, the tattoo, or the sex crimes against white women. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago tactical error permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago It was not just a tactical error, it was an ideological error. Candidates are much more than what they had someone write on their policy page. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago the tactical error of platforming a nazi, get out permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago It was more about the incredibly heinous public personal history which could and would have been rejected by anyone with a shred of principle. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child) has AOC called for expanding the US military? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) "uhh who's similar to the Neo Nazi SAer who did 4 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq? let me think of the first brown liberal I could remember" Fuck AOC for being a lib, fuck her for talking about "defensive weapons of israel", but she wasn't on the field bombing Afghan kids, she doesn't having Nazi tattoos on her, she's not even remotely comparable to Captain Swastika over here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago* precisely permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) "uhh who's similar to the Neo Nazi SAer who did 4 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq? let me think of the first brown liberal I could remember" Fuck AOC for being a lib, fuck her for talking about "defensive weapons of israel", but she wasn't on the field bombing Afghan kids, she doesn't having Nazi tattoos on her, she's not even remotely comparable to Captain Swastika over here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago* precisely permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago He is probably only going to be more reactionary, but it's because of the DNC, not fucking Haaretz. Why would Haaretz convince him of anything? They just gave the same dogwater talking points that he has been refuting for years. permalink fedilink source parent