▲ 410 ▼ Cats make everything better (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 week ago by Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de to c/memes@lemmy.world 99 comments fedilink hide all child comments …except the local bird population.
[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) Then there is no animal friendly way to keep cats without damage to the environment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (2 children) Oh so I guess if we cannot be perfect we should just stop caring. Blocking people who cannot be communicated with on here requires way too much effort and yet I persist... Like what the fuck is the point in pretending people need to know that nothing is perfect? Everyone obviously already gets that You're implying something and it's not good. Pretend otherwise all you want, I won't see your messages permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 0 points 1 week ago Everyone obviously already gets that The first comment of this chain literally says: easily prevent all the damage to the local environment by just keeping your cat inside. So no, mybe it's not obvious for everyone and maybe even obvious things need to be said occasionally for oblivious folks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I'm implying cats have an effect on the climate because they eat meat. Not telling anyone not to have cats. I'm not sneakily implying anything else. I'm also not saying anything remotely controversial. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago (2 children) I get that there's a difference with farmed meat and all, but you may as well argue natural wild predators are bad for the environment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) That's honestly an awful comparison. Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain, domestic cats represent either an artificial demand for farmed meat, which is bad for the environment, or they hunt themselves which is awful for the environment as well as they're an invasive species everywhere and already the cause of dozens of extinctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) The difference between farmed and wild meat is crucial so no I may not as well argue that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (2 children) Oh so I guess if we cannot be perfect we should just stop caring. Blocking people who cannot be communicated with on here requires way too much effort and yet I persist... Like what the fuck is the point in pretending people need to know that nothing is perfect? Everyone obviously already gets that You're implying something and it's not good. Pretend otherwise all you want, I won't see your messages permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 0 points 1 week ago Everyone obviously already gets that The first comment of this chain literally says: easily prevent all the damage to the local environment by just keeping your cat inside. So no, mybe it's not obvious for everyone and maybe even obvious things need to be said occasionally for oblivious folks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I'm implying cats have an effect on the climate because they eat meat. Not telling anyone not to have cats. I'm not sneakily implying anything else. I'm also not saying anything remotely controversial. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago (2 children) I get that there's a difference with farmed meat and all, but you may as well argue natural wild predators are bad for the environment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) That's honestly an awful comparison. Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain, domestic cats represent either an artificial demand for farmed meat, which is bad for the environment, or they hunt themselves which is awful for the environment as well as they're an invasive species everywhere and already the cause of dozens of extinctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) The difference between farmed and wild meat is crucial so no I may not as well argue that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 0 points 1 week ago Everyone obviously already gets that The first comment of this chain literally says: easily prevent all the damage to the local environment by just keeping your cat inside. So no, mybe it's not obvious for everyone and maybe even obvious things need to be said occasionally for oblivious folks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I'm implying cats have an effect on the climate because they eat meat. Not telling anyone not to have cats. I'm not sneakily implying anything else. I'm also not saying anything remotely controversial. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago (2 children) I get that there's a difference with farmed meat and all, but you may as well argue natural wild predators are bad for the environment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) That's honestly an awful comparison. Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain, domestic cats represent either an artificial demand for farmed meat, which is bad for the environment, or they hunt themselves which is awful for the environment as well as they're an invasive species everywhere and already the cause of dozens of extinctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) The difference between farmed and wild meat is crucial so no I may not as well argue that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago (2 children) I get that there's a difference with farmed meat and all, but you may as well argue natural wild predators are bad for the environment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) That's honestly an awful comparison. Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain, domestic cats represent either an artificial demand for farmed meat, which is bad for the environment, or they hunt themselves which is awful for the environment as well as they're an invasive species everywhere and already the cause of dozens of extinctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) The difference between farmed and wild meat is crucial so no I may not as well argue that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) That's honestly an awful comparison. Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain, domestic cats represent either an artificial demand for farmed meat, which is bad for the environment, or they hunt themselves which is awful for the environment as well as they're an invasive species everywhere and already the cause of dozens of extinctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) The difference between farmed and wild meat is crucial so no I may not as well argue that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
