▲ 410 ▼ Cats make everything better (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 week ago by Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de to c/memes@lemmy.world 99 comments fedilink hide all child comments …except the local bird population.
[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I'm implying cats have an effect on the climate because they eat meat. Not telling anyone not to have cats. I'm not sneakily implying anything else. I'm also not saying anything remotely controversial. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago (2 children) I get that there's a difference with farmed meat and all, but you may as well argue natural wild predators are bad for the environment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) That's honestly an awful comparison. Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain, domestic cats represent either an artificial demand for farmed meat, which is bad for the environment, or they hunt themselves which is awful for the environment as well as they're an invasive species everywhere and already the cause of dozens of extinctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) The difference between farmed and wild meat is crucial so no I may not as well argue that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago (2 children) I get that there's a difference with farmed meat and all, but you may as well argue natural wild predators are bad for the environment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) That's honestly an awful comparison. Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain, domestic cats represent either an artificial demand for farmed meat, which is bad for the environment, or they hunt themselves which is awful for the environment as well as they're an invasive species everywhere and already the cause of dozens of extinctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) The difference between farmed and wild meat is crucial so no I may not as well argue that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) That's honestly an awful comparison. Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain, domestic cats represent either an artificial demand for farmed meat, which is bad for the environment, or they hunt themselves which is awful for the environment as well as they're an invasive species everywhere and already the cause of dozens of extinctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Wild predators don't consume more than the environment can sustain Sometimes they do Wild animals aren't less taxing on the environment per se, they're just differently taxing. Long living ecosystems are likely to be closer to balance. But never perfectly balanced. Domestic cats are just cats same as the wild ones, but in different numbers and locations For example, people like to talk about beavers as good for the environment. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wwtGgnzg4 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) The difference between farmed and wild meat is crucial so no I may not as well argue that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago Leaving cats to find their own game instead of feeding them farmed meat is significantly worse for the local population (of birds in particular) permalink fedilink source parent