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Copyrightability of LLM-generated code: Can we license “vibe code” into Free Software? (fsfe.org)
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[–] -2 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Exactly, and that's where the problem lies and where something needs to be done.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Like licensing?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Right but why would we want to license vibecoded slop?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Irrelevant question. For licensing and copyright questions, quality of code is not important.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Why would we want to license vibecoded slop code built with a system that is (in most cases) probably and admittedly actively using data from sources with incompatible licences or no licences at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    probably and admittedly actively using data from sources with incompatible licences or no licences at all

    You answered your own question. I don't know what you try to say, but the article and our discussion is explaining if and why licensing code that is vibe coded is possible or makes sense at all. And you point the problem out that this is problematic and probably not possible in good faith. So its not about what we want, but about if and what is possible.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    No, like banning LLMs.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    You do live in reality, do you?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Ah yes, the reality that consists in giving up on all proper solutions out of being "down to earth", effectively solving nothing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The proper not possible solution... Sure...

    People like you are the reason I gave up on the things getting better. What you people propose has nothing to do with how the world works we live in. It's all based on how the world should work.

    Good luck with banning llms, seems realistic.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I forgot how easy it is to hide datacenters and massive data collection. Really, really hard to enforce, huh.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    You can, as of this very moment, download a 16 GB LLM and run it on your local computer. Or any bigger version, if you happen to have a beefy computer. LLMs are software. Good luck banning software. This is the internet.

    ALSO, even if you do happen to be able to ban AI training facilities and such in the U.S., and those models become outdated, you can even go download some Chinese models too! They are not going away.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I don’t think the existence of something bad and needing to deal with that are mutually exclusive. Of course one should tackle the root of a problem. But you still need to bail water while the boat has a hole in it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    But licensing is trying to remove the water without doing anything about the hole. Or, best case situation, saying "we will fix the hole when the water is unmanageable, but for now we'll just try to empty it faster than it fills".

    If you ban LLMs, the problem will disappear. It's not like you can really hide a datacenter so easily, or the size of the data required. Anything less than that will do nothing

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