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[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) "Ontario" is already an indigenous word. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario#Etymology : Ontario is a term thought to have Indigenous origins, either Ontarí:io, a Huron (Wyandot) word meaning "great lake",[16] or possibly skanadario, which means "beautiful water" or "sparkling water" in the Iroquoian languages.[17] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) Ontario is a colonial derivation of an indigenous word. Your own source provides 2 potential options for indigenous names: Ontarí:io and Skanadario permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) What's the difference between a (bad connotation) "colonial derivation" and a (neutral connotation) "transliteration?" Remember, there was no native writing system and therefore no original orthographic form to be faithful to. "Ontario" and "Ontarí:io" are damn similar, so who's to say "Ontario" wasn't just a reasonable 17th Century transliteration from the time before diacritical marks were a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) We could ask the Haudenosaunee Nation, given that they're Iriqouian speakers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speltrong@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago I think you missed the meaning of his message permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) Ontario is a colonial derivation of an indigenous word. Your own source provides 2 potential options for indigenous names: Ontarí:io and Skanadario permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) What's the difference between a (bad connotation) "colonial derivation" and a (neutral connotation) "transliteration?" Remember, there was no native writing system and therefore no original orthographic form to be faithful to. "Ontario" and "Ontarí:io" are damn similar, so who's to say "Ontario" wasn't just a reasonable 17th Century transliteration from the time before diacritical marks were a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) We could ask the Haudenosaunee Nation, given that they're Iriqouian speakers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speltrong@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago I think you missed the meaning of his message permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) What's the difference between a (bad connotation) "colonial derivation" and a (neutral connotation) "transliteration?" Remember, there was no native writing system and therefore no original orthographic form to be faithful to. "Ontario" and "Ontarí:io" are damn similar, so who's to say "Ontario" wasn't just a reasonable 17th Century transliteration from the time before diacritical marks were a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) We could ask the Haudenosaunee Nation, given that they're Iriqouian speakers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speltrong@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago I think you missed the meaning of his message permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) We could ask the Haudenosaunee Nation, given that they're Iriqouian speakers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speltrong@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago I think you missed the meaning of his message permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Speltrong@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago I think you missed the meaning of his message permalink fedilink source parent