▲ 535 ▼ Father of USS Lincoln sailor taken into ICE detention while son deployed in Middle East (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 day ago by breaking_bad@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 107 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (3 children) Is it really voluntary when you have no other recourse? When the circumstances of your life are so hopeless that is seems like the only option? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) Work at a gas station or go murder brown people for way more money and paid education? It's a choice, a selfish one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Look, I get what you're saying, and "I was only following orders" is also a choice, and one that you should get rightfully judged for, but let's not pretend like creating circumstances where people find themselves uneducated and without life prospects isn't a big recruitment vector for the military. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Yeah no shit, the military gives you incentives to be a Nazi, you choosing those incentives knowing you're doing Nazi shit still makes you a Nazi, regardless of how you end up if you don't choose to be a Nazi. What point are you making exactly? We don't have to pretend like they had no other choice... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 30 minutes ago I think we're in agreement. I don't think there's a contention at this point. Talking out loud about your thoughts on things with others is a constructive way to vet your own beliefs and preconceptions, when there is pushback you reevaluate. Reevaluate. It's a word. Look! reevaluate verb Revise or renew one's assessment. I wanted to say re-evaluate, but reevaluate is actually proper, and saves me a dash. Anyway, I am glad we agree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -3 points 16 hours ago* (1 child) If your options are to murder innocent people or to die, then lie down and get comfortable. But I have a feeling that while you are waiting, other options will occur to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 33 minutes ago I can respect that line of reasoning. I disagree, but I understand it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) You can join the army or join the corps because you can't make it here anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago And they're not making it easier making it here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) Work at a gas station or go murder brown people for way more money and paid education? It's a choice, a selfish one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Look, I get what you're saying, and "I was only following orders" is also a choice, and one that you should get rightfully judged for, but let's not pretend like creating circumstances where people find themselves uneducated and without life prospects isn't a big recruitment vector for the military. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Yeah no shit, the military gives you incentives to be a Nazi, you choosing those incentives knowing you're doing Nazi shit still makes you a Nazi, regardless of how you end up if you don't choose to be a Nazi. What point are you making exactly? We don't have to pretend like they had no other choice... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 30 minutes ago I think we're in agreement. I don't think there's a contention at this point. Talking out loud about your thoughts on things with others is a constructive way to vet your own beliefs and preconceptions, when there is pushback you reevaluate. Reevaluate. It's a word. Look! reevaluate verb Revise or renew one's assessment. I wanted to say re-evaluate, but reevaluate is actually proper, and saves me a dash. Anyway, I am glad we agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Look, I get what you're saying, and "I was only following orders" is also a choice, and one that you should get rightfully judged for, but let's not pretend like creating circumstances where people find themselves uneducated and without life prospects isn't a big recruitment vector for the military. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Yeah no shit, the military gives you incentives to be a Nazi, you choosing those incentives knowing you're doing Nazi shit still makes you a Nazi, regardless of how you end up if you don't choose to be a Nazi. What point are you making exactly? We don't have to pretend like they had no other choice... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 30 minutes ago I think we're in agreement. I don't think there's a contention at this point. Talking out loud about your thoughts on things with others is a constructive way to vet your own beliefs and preconceptions, when there is pushback you reevaluate. Reevaluate. It's a word. Look! reevaluate verb Revise or renew one's assessment. I wanted to say re-evaluate, but reevaluate is actually proper, and saves me a dash. Anyway, I am glad we agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Yeah no shit, the military gives you incentives to be a Nazi, you choosing those incentives knowing you're doing Nazi shit still makes you a Nazi, regardless of how you end up if you don't choose to be a Nazi. What point are you making exactly? We don't have to pretend like they had no other choice... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 30 minutes ago I think we're in agreement. I don't think there's a contention at this point. Talking out loud about your thoughts on things with others is a constructive way to vet your own beliefs and preconceptions, when there is pushback you reevaluate. Reevaluate. It's a word. Look! reevaluate verb Revise or renew one's assessment. I wanted to say re-evaluate, but reevaluate is actually proper, and saves me a dash. Anyway, I am glad we agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 30 minutes ago I think we're in agreement. I don't think there's a contention at this point. Talking out loud about your thoughts on things with others is a constructive way to vet your own beliefs and preconceptions, when there is pushback you reevaluate. Reevaluate. It's a word. Look! reevaluate verb Revise or renew one's assessment. I wanted to say re-evaluate, but reevaluate is actually proper, and saves me a dash. Anyway, I am glad we agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -3 points 16 hours ago* (1 child) If your options are to murder innocent people or to die, then lie down and get comfortable. But I have a feeling that while you are waiting, other options will occur to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 33 minutes ago I can respect that line of reasoning. I disagree, but I understand it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 33 minutes ago I can respect that line of reasoning. I disagree, but I understand it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) You can join the army or join the corps because you can't make it here anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago And they're not making it easier making it here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago And they're not making it easier making it here. permalink fedilink source parent