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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 child) Okay but also what right does the US have to take most of their uranium in the first place? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 36 points 16 hours ago (2 children) None. That's why Obama proposed a deal where the US would do things and Iran would do some other things. Kinda like how I give the supermarket money and they give me icecream. I don't have a right to take their icecream away, but we can trade for it. Trumps idea was to say "no, we will not make any deals, because Obama touched it and now it smells". Then he noticed that Iran wasn't following the deal, panic, and start bombing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago* (1 child) Trump cancelled the deal. With no deal, there is no longer any reason for them to follow the agreements. Trump bombed iran for the same reason previous presidents have messed with it; Iran was attempting to subvert the american petrodollar, in this case by trading with china in chinese currency as opposed to USD, which would have prevented us from being able to sieze, tax, track or sanction it as it passes through US banks, and threaten the USD as the global reserve currency. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago* And what right do we have to sieze, tax, track, and sanction trade between Iran and China? Seems to me that the best outcome for the rest of the world is for the USD to lose world reserve status once and for all, if it would calm our obsession with being nosey warmongering cretins. But then of course, we're going to get more desperate and reactionary and violent in attempts to defend that status as it's loss becomes more inevitable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daannii@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child) What did Iran get out of it cause seams like they just got sanctions and b.s restrictions. Not a fair trade or anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago* (1 child) The JCPOA was, if you boil the 109 pages down to two sentences, basically "If you heavily restrict uranium enrichment for 10 to 15 years, and don't have anything weapons-grade, China, Europe, the US and Russia will actually do trade with you. If you don't, we won't." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I still don't see why the U.S has the right to make those restrictions with other countries. It just sounds like extortion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 36 points 16 hours ago (2 children) None. That's why Obama proposed a deal where the US would do things and Iran would do some other things. Kinda like how I give the supermarket money and they give me icecream. I don't have a right to take their icecream away, but we can trade for it. Trumps idea was to say "no, we will not make any deals, because Obama touched it and now it smells". Then he noticed that Iran wasn't following the deal, panic, and start bombing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago* (1 child) Trump cancelled the deal. With no deal, there is no longer any reason for them to follow the agreements. Trump bombed iran for the same reason previous presidents have messed with it; Iran was attempting to subvert the american petrodollar, in this case by trading with china in chinese currency as opposed to USD, which would have prevented us from being able to sieze, tax, track or sanction it as it passes through US banks, and threaten the USD as the global reserve currency. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago* And what right do we have to sieze, tax, track, and sanction trade between Iran and China? Seems to me that the best outcome for the rest of the world is for the USD to lose world reserve status once and for all, if it would calm our obsession with being nosey warmongering cretins. But then of course, we're going to get more desperate and reactionary and violent in attempts to defend that status as it's loss becomes more inevitable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daannii@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child) What did Iran get out of it cause seams like they just got sanctions and b.s restrictions. Not a fair trade or anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago* (1 child) The JCPOA was, if you boil the 109 pages down to two sentences, basically "If you heavily restrict uranium enrichment for 10 to 15 years, and don't have anything weapons-grade, China, Europe, the US and Russia will actually do trade with you. If you don't, we won't." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I still don't see why the U.S has the right to make those restrictions with other countries. It just sounds like extortion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago* (1 child) Trump cancelled the deal. With no deal, there is no longer any reason for them to follow the agreements. Trump bombed iran for the same reason previous presidents have messed with it; Iran was attempting to subvert the american petrodollar, in this case by trading with china in chinese currency as opposed to USD, which would have prevented us from being able to sieze, tax, track or sanction it as it passes through US banks, and threaten the USD as the global reserve currency. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago* And what right do we have to sieze, tax, track, and sanction trade between Iran and China? Seems to me that the best outcome for the rest of the world is for the USD to lose world reserve status once and for all, if it would calm our obsession with being nosey warmongering cretins. But then of course, we're going to get more desperate and reactionary and violent in attempts to defend that status as it's loss becomes more inevitable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago* And what right do we have to sieze, tax, track, and sanction trade between Iran and China? Seems to me that the best outcome for the rest of the world is for the USD to lose world reserve status once and for all, if it would calm our obsession with being nosey warmongering cretins. But then of course, we're going to get more desperate and reactionary and violent in attempts to defend that status as it's loss becomes more inevitable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daannii@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child) What did Iran get out of it cause seams like they just got sanctions and b.s restrictions. Not a fair trade or anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago* (1 child) The JCPOA was, if you boil the 109 pages down to two sentences, basically "If you heavily restrict uranium enrichment for 10 to 15 years, and don't have anything weapons-grade, China, Europe, the US and Russia will actually do trade with you. If you don't, we won't." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I still don't see why the U.S has the right to make those restrictions with other countries. It just sounds like extortion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago* (1 child) The JCPOA was, if you boil the 109 pages down to two sentences, basically "If you heavily restrict uranium enrichment for 10 to 15 years, and don't have anything weapons-grade, China, Europe, the US and Russia will actually do trade with you. If you don't, we won't." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I still don't see why the U.S has the right to make those restrictions with other countries. It just sounds like extortion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I still don't see why the U.S has the right to make those restrictions with other countries. It just sounds like extortion. permalink fedilink source parent
