▲ 10 ▼ 'Impact across the board': Australia's housing downturn enters a new phase (www.sbs.com.au) submitted 2 days ago by okwithmydecay@leminal.space to c/australia@aussie.zone 6 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] bignose@aussie.zone 10 points 2 days ago (3 children) It's weird how that happens, huh? Housing prices inflate, the rent goes up. Housing price growth slows, the rent goes up. Housing prices come down, the rent goes up. I've yet to hear anyone involved in real estate tell me coherently what could ever cause the rent to come down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago As someone who experienced renting in the ‘00s and ‘10s, my first apartment was a 2br in inner Melbourne for $250/w. By the end of the 3rd year, our rent rose to $275/w. Our next place a couple suburbs further out was $350/w, by the end of the 3rd year, our rent rose to $385/w. The last place we rented (inner suburbia), we stayed for 10 years - the rent started at $350/w, and even after a decade didn’t touch $400/w. I’ve never experienced a rent drop in that entire time; but have had multiple years without a rental increase - something that would be quite rare these days. The answer to the question as to whether/when your individual rent will ever drop - the answer is probably never - unless you move. HOWEVER, an increased supply of rental properties and disincentives from keeping residential properties vacant, would cause increased competition for tenants and could cause a supply-side price drop. The Howard-era Negative Gearing and Capital Gains Tax changes heavily incentivised hoarding existing properties and disincentivised building up housing density in existing suburbs due to a fear of negatively impacting prices. Coupled with a big push towards white collar work via university degrees, rather than blue collar trades - has left us as a nation scrambling to build up enough housing stock to satisfy the massive population increase we’ve experienced since 2000. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago Honest real estate agents. permalink fedilink source parent [–] No1@aussie.zone 1 point 1 day ago* I'm not in real estate, but I think for that to happen, multiple things would be so bad that everyone would be fucked anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago As someone who experienced renting in the ‘00s and ‘10s, my first apartment was a 2br in inner Melbourne for $250/w. By the end of the 3rd year, our rent rose to $275/w. Our next place a couple suburbs further out was $350/w, by the end of the 3rd year, our rent rose to $385/w. The last place we rented (inner suburbia), we stayed for 10 years - the rent started at $350/w, and even after a decade didn’t touch $400/w. I’ve never experienced a rent drop in that entire time; but have had multiple years without a rental increase - something that would be quite rare these days. The answer to the question as to whether/when your individual rent will ever drop - the answer is probably never - unless you move. HOWEVER, an increased supply of rental properties and disincentives from keeping residential properties vacant, would cause increased competition for tenants and could cause a supply-side price drop. The Howard-era Negative Gearing and Capital Gains Tax changes heavily incentivised hoarding existing properties and disincentivised building up housing density in existing suburbs due to a fear of negatively impacting prices. Coupled with a big push towards white collar work via university degrees, rather than blue collar trades - has left us as a nation scrambling to build up enough housing stock to satisfy the massive population increase we’ve experienced since 2000. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] No1@aussie.zone 1 point 1 day ago* I'm not in real estate, but I think for that to happen, multiple things would be so bad that everyone would be fucked anyways. permalink fedilink source parent