And there is actual discrimination involved in this, the bigotry against immigrant men who are the main target of right wing propaganda especially in Europe, it paints Arab and African men specifically as "SA"ers and thieves and is used to justify hate crimes. There's the fact that even human right organizations use "women and children" to refer to civilians in wars against third world countries, as if to say "it's okay to kill Iranian, Palestinian, Lebanese, Yemeni and all other browns if they are men". POC men also face gender specific fetishisation.

Yes! A comrade was running a reading group of Mohammed el-Kurd's book Perfect Victims wherein he talked about why he had to recenter men. Men are part of the community, and the western press (when it deigns to talk about Israel's atrocities at all) says in the same breath that it's terrible to kill women and children but fine to kill men. And future men, as in boys, as in children. But when the men are murdered, the women aren't going "thank god we've been freed from our oppressive males", no, they mourn their brothers, their sons, their husbands, their uncles, their friends.

When Kopmala lost to Trump so many whites were blaming latinos, esp men, cause "they're so sexist they would never vote for a woman to have power over them" while ignoring many if not most latam countries have had at least one female president while the us has had 0 lmao

The cracKKKers of this site tend to always assume good of white women and white queers. They'll see a white women spew shit against "all men" and never stop for a second to wonder if her definition of "men" might include trans women or if she is aware of the racial violence she could enact on men of color*. I feel like I rarely ever see struggle sessions related to gender, but I do recall some. The way this site handles gender dynamics is less likely to be scrutinized, but on racial subjects? That's where people especially get uncomfortable and always want to cause a ruckus. That's how we were able to have so many separate struggle sessions about Ansarallah being "antisemitic." This is also why this time I saw some liberal white man on some Instagram reel say "White people treat Black people the way men treat women" made me uncomfortable. That kind of framing greatly misses the point and is so damn reductive. It's reminding me of that John Lennon song, too (you know the one). The compartmentalization is annoying as well. People might think shit like "In Western countries, a Black man is privileged over a white woman in terms of gender, but the white woman is privileged over him in terms of race," but that's not actually how it works. You cannot separate the way gender factors into racial dynamics here. The way gender is handled on these two bodies is not something that exists in a vacuum, detached from any other aspect about them, so people shouldn't oversimplify that shit.

*Though this didn't happen with a "white" Western country, this is also reminding me of this time we had this post uncritically celebrating South Korea's 4B movement and then everyone who was cheering that shit on felt embarrassed and started deleting/editing comments when someone commented that said movement is actually horrible in many ways. Such includes transphobia and how they are really more so the product of internalized racism (i.e., they are against sex with Korean men, but sure as hell don't mind sex with male Western tourists, akin to the "divestor" shit you see among a small portion of Black women)

Here's what I don't understand, though: how the fuck can someone hear of a "female separatist movement" in SSouth KKKorea of all fucking places and then be baffled when that movement is extremely bioessentialist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there has ever been a time when female separatism HASN'T been bioessentialist. If it wasn't, chances are there would have to be very awkward conversations about how trans and non-binary people factor into this shit, and these movements certainly do not permit such nuances. Their approach is already undialectical as fuck and tries to reduce "dismantling patriarchy" to individual acts of abstinence against men.