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[–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (26 children)

'> complains about being banned for bigotry

'> claims that an entire nationality is worse than a fantasy shorthand for inherently and irredeemably evil species

I think the mods got it right dude.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (25 children)

    Maybe that entire nationality shouldn't exhibit exclusively traits of an inherently and irredeemably evil species.

    MLs are banning everyone who disagrees with their narrative regardless of rules, and you know it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Don't collectively condemn Russians just because their government and most of their boomers suck.

    Like there are a lot of Russians who hate the current situation. But Russia is at a point that speaking out means prison.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    My life is literally at risk just by me living and working in Ukraine. Forgive me if I don't have much sympathy for russians living their lives safely and funding the terrorism with their taxes.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    You think many Russians voluntarily joined the military? A lot of them were forced to join the military and there are many political prisoners who protested Putin who were sent to their deaths because they were forced into the military.

    Holy crap dude.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Way to move the goalposts. I'm talking about the majority of the population that doesn't give a shit about Ukraine or anything outside of their cozy little lives. The ones that only say something when it personally inconveniences them. The ones that watch their husbands, brothers and sons get killed in a senseless war and move on with their lives, content with the scraps putin throws them.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Even if it is 90% of the population, it is still shit to lump the remaining 10% in with them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    The remaining 10% are already out of the country and/or contributing to various anarchist organizations. You know full well I'm not lumping those in.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I see you lumping all Russians in in your rhetoric. And we are only speaking of those in the country. There are also millions in former Soviet satellite states. That is why being nuanced is important.

    And if you meant not all of them, you made no effort to specify.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Nuanced, then. I condemn all russians who are still proud of being russian, indifferent to the actions of their government and military, and supporting their terrorism financially via taxes. That's makes up about 99% of them. And the remainder would fully share my anger and grief, since they have to look at the 99% of indifferent shitheads go about their daily lives and whine about gas station queues.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (14 children)

    Maybe, maybe not, but in this case you are pretty clearly breaking their rules about no bigotry, and then doubling down on it repeatedly.

    So once again, they definitely got it right this time.

    I'd also point out that this type of rhetoric is an excellent way to make Russian propaganda against the west seem accurate.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (13 children)

    Me? That's not even my post, my guy. Though I agree with OP. Anyone who directly or indirectly supports the terrorist nation (including by inaction) more than deserves to be called an orc and worse.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago* (12 children)

    Directly and indirectly, including through inaction, huh? So pretty much every baby in the world is a literal manifestation of evil or worse.

    I rarely take claims of russophobia seriously. You sir are a russophobe.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    You sir must be a really good farmer with how quickly you build strawmen.

    You instantly zero in on anything you can stretch into "bigotry" that is directed against russia but ignore blatant systemic bigotry in support of them. If pointing that out makes me a russophobe, then I'm clearly not trying hard enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

    Wtf is "systemic bigotry in support of Russia"? Are you talking about Russian propaganda? Yeah, that's common. Spreading around is a pretty defining feature of propaganda.

    Because claiming that an entire nationality is fundamentally and irredeemably evil is pretty clearly bigotry.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

    This is you claiming all citizens are military targets

    Second, Israel has what’s called a Schrodinger’s civilian, in that every citizen has undergone military training so in this case I think the settlers count as military.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (8 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    You're saying civilians count as military targets because they may have undergone military training, yes.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    Did I claim that they are all inherently and incorrigibly evil?

    Edit: Ukraine is quite clearly in the right in this situation, and they are justified in using whatever military means possible to achieve the following two war goals:

    1. Retaking all territory lost to the Russian invasion
    2. Removing, by whichever means is convenient, all combatants affiliated with Russia from said territory.

    And yes, civilians (Russia also has a draft, but it's a bit easier to cheat I think) will die in the process. It's war. Shit happens.

    The only way Ukraine can become the bad guy in this situation is if they meet both of the above conditions, and then seek to continue an offensive war. This becomes a lot easier when you see your enemy not as a simple enemy, but as literally demonic evil. Which is what "orc" refers to both in fantasy and history. Soldiers, those directly involved in the war effort, I get that. Still not a fan, but that's at least a direct enemy. Every Russian ever? No.

    edit2: You will note that this is what Israel did. They removed Hamas from within their territory (with some details, Assume gaza/west bank ain't theirs), and then went on an offensive war to grab land. You will also note the sheer amount of dehumanizing rhetoric pointed at Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria that allowed this to happen.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Did I claim that they are all inherently and incorrigibly evil?

    no you claimed that civilians count as military targets if they have undergone military training

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Oh, well then that's just entirely irrelevant to the topic of bigotry, isn't it?

    That's just you digging through my entire posting history looking for reasons. Classy. You happen to wear meta/perv glasses? You're giving me that vibe.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    He caught you being a hypocrite my guy. The Schrodinger's civilian line is straight up bigotry. You're judging Israelis by a different criteria than other human beings and dehumanizing them in order to make the argument that it is acceptable to target civilians as long as they are Israeli. You're not willing to grant Israelis the same rights that you would grant to the civilian population of any other country, such as Russia; i.e., you are bigoted towards Israelis.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    What part of that phrase is a specifically anti-israeli slur that implies all Israelis are inherently evil?

    Because Russia also has a draft. Schrodinger's civilian applied to their little green men before 2022, too.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Stating that civilians should be acceptable as military targets is worse than calling them evil lol

    Call me evil all you want, but at least give me the courtesy of not trying to kill me if I don't have any military relevance. Even the Nazis received that courtesy

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