▲ 46 ▼ Russia’s Communist Party on Ukraine: ‘If We Lose This Conflict, We Will Be Destroyed’ (www.youtube.com) submitted 2 years ago by yogthos@lemmygrad.ml to c/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Folks over at hexbear seem displeased with this take permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it's still a bit divided over there on opinions of the big two communist parties over in the RF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What's the situation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago I believe it's a case of either believing the KPRF is the Russian equivalent of the Yankee CPUSA in the negative connotations that's normally associated with cpusa, that the KPRF is a boomer social luncheon party to spend days in nostalgia for the CCCP, or that the KPRF is objectively captured by the Russian capitalists under Putin and are controlled opposition. And I've seen some takes dismissing the RCWP-KPRF as being a patsoc party on the grounds of their chauvinist LGBT+ views. But the few people that did hold that view that I knew of haven't shown their face for a while so the RCWP's more or less an unknown existence permalink fedilink source parent [–] HobbitFoot 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) It becomes even worse if you point out that a preemptive invasion of a weaker nation due to a fear of attack is the same justification that the USA used for the invasion of Iraq. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference is that in the case of the US that was a lie. And Ukraine being a US proxy is not actually the weaker party in this, Russia is because they don't have the full backing of an alliance like NATO behind them. So Russia was entirely justified in feeling threatened by a militarized russophobic Nazi regime, not on the other side of an ocean but right on their border, wanting to join a hostile military alliance who openly declare that their principal enemy is Russia. People who try to draw superficial comparisons between Ukraine and Iraq are lying by omission because literally everything about this is different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, then the comparison would have been accurate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) I was expecting an attempt at an argument. I mean, criticizing the Ukrainian Communist Party has a "if you're not with us, you're against us" energy to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago Clown permalink fedilink source parent [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Use our emoji :debate-pervert: instead if you can, more accessible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent [–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) If Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, there would have been no war in the first place. The threat of NATO having bases ON the Russian border is why this war is happening. But don't take it from me, take it from this guy Or better yet, how about the CIA? They knew in 2008 that this was THE red line for Russia, then laughed and crossed it anyway, and it played out EXACTLY as their analysts said it would permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there are no NATO bases currently in Ukraine nor was there support for Ukraine in 2008 to repel Russian aggression. So it might have been a strategic worry for Russia, but nothing ever came of it. And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. It's more complicated than that. There is still context from 2014 up till now, Minsk 1 and 2. Russia tried diplomacy talks then the SMO happened. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago 2008 was Georgia, what are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) "If the situation was entirely different, would this comparison be accurate?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm only asking because of the previous invasion of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about 2014, when the U.S. orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and Crimean residents were overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia, foreshadowing the following decade of low-intensity civil war leading up to the current war? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then would that justify France invading Niger after the Niger coup due to geopolitical reasons? And these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation. Or are you going to freak out when I point out this is how the Sudetenland got annexed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] D61@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago History, what even is it? permalink fedilink source parent [+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it's still a bit divided over there on opinions of the big two communist parties over in the RF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What's the situation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago I believe it's a case of either believing the KPRF is the Russian equivalent of the Yankee CPUSA in the negative connotations that's normally associated with cpusa, that the KPRF is a boomer social luncheon party to spend days in nostalgia for the CCCP, or that the KPRF is objectively captured by the Russian capitalists under Putin and are controlled opposition. And I've seen some takes dismissing the RCWP-KPRF as being a patsoc party on the grounds of their chauvinist LGBT+ views. But the few people that did hold that view that I knew of haven't shown their face for a while so the RCWP's more or less an unknown existence permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What's the situation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago I believe it's a case of either believing the KPRF is the Russian equivalent of the Yankee CPUSA in the negative connotations that's normally associated with cpusa, that the KPRF is a boomer social luncheon party to spend days in nostalgia for the CCCP, or that the KPRF is objectively captured by the Russian capitalists under Putin and are controlled opposition. And I've seen some takes dismissing the RCWP-KPRF as being a patsoc party on the grounds of their chauvinist LGBT+ views. But the few people that did hold that view that I knew of haven't shown their face for a while so the RCWP's more or less an unknown existence permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago I believe it's a case of either believing the KPRF is the Russian equivalent of the Yankee CPUSA in the negative connotations that's normally associated with cpusa, that the KPRF is a boomer social luncheon party to spend days in nostalgia for the CCCP, or that the KPRF is objectively captured by the Russian capitalists under Putin and are controlled opposition. And I've seen some takes dismissing the RCWP-KPRF as being a patsoc party on the grounds of their chauvinist LGBT+ views. But the few people that did hold that view that I knew of haven't shown their face for a while so the RCWP's more or less an unknown existence permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HobbitFoot 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) It becomes even worse if you point out that a preemptive invasion of a weaker nation due to a fear of attack is the same justification that the USA used for the invasion of Iraq. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference is that in the case of the US that was a lie. And Ukraine being a US proxy is not actually the weaker party in this, Russia is because they don't have the full backing of an alliance like NATO behind them. So Russia was entirely justified in feeling threatened by a militarized russophobic Nazi regime, not on the other side of an ocean but right on their border, wanting to join a hostile military alliance who openly declare that their principal enemy is Russia. People who try to draw superficial comparisons between Ukraine and Iraq are lying by omission because literally everything about this is different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, then the comparison would have been accurate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) I was expecting an attempt at an argument. I mean, criticizing the Ukrainian Communist Party has a "if you're not with us, you're against us" energy to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago Clown permalink fedilink source parent [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Use our emoji :debate-pervert: instead if you can, more accessible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent [–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) If Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, there would have been no war in the first place. The threat of NATO having bases ON the Russian border is why this war is happening. But don't take it from me, take it from this guy Or better yet, how about the CIA? They knew in 2008 that this was THE red line for Russia, then laughed and crossed it anyway, and it played out EXACTLY as their analysts said it would permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there are no NATO bases currently in Ukraine nor was there support for Ukraine in 2008 to repel Russian aggression. So it might have been a strategic worry for Russia, but nothing ever came of it. And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. It's more complicated than that. There is still context from 2014 up till now, Minsk 1 and 2. Russia tried diplomacy talks then the SMO happened. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago 2008 was Georgia, what are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) "If the situation was entirely different, would this comparison be accurate?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm only asking because of the previous invasion of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about 2014, when the U.S. orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and Crimean residents were overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia, foreshadowing the following decade of low-intensity civil war leading up to the current war? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then would that justify France invading Niger after the Niger coup due to geopolitical reasons? And these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation. Or are you going to freak out when I point out this is how the Sudetenland got annexed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] D61@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago History, what even is it? permalink fedilink source parent [+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference is that in the case of the US that was a lie. And Ukraine being a US proxy is not actually the weaker party in this, Russia is because they don't have the full backing of an alliance like NATO behind them. So Russia was entirely justified in feeling threatened by a militarized russophobic Nazi regime, not on the other side of an ocean but right on their border, wanting to join a hostile military alliance who openly declare that their principal enemy is Russia. People who try to draw superficial comparisons between Ukraine and Iraq are lying by omission because literally everything about this is different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, then the comparison would have been accurate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) I was expecting an attempt at an argument. I mean, criticizing the Ukrainian Communist Party has a "if you're not with us, you're against us" energy to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago Clown permalink fedilink source parent [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Use our emoji :debate-pervert: instead if you can, more accessible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent [–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) If Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, there would have been no war in the first place. The threat of NATO having bases ON the Russian border is why this war is happening. But don't take it from me, take it from this guy Or better yet, how about the CIA? They knew in 2008 that this was THE red line for Russia, then laughed and crossed it anyway, and it played out EXACTLY as their analysts said it would permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there are no NATO bases currently in Ukraine nor was there support for Ukraine in 2008 to repel Russian aggression. So it might have been a strategic worry for Russia, but nothing ever came of it. And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. It's more complicated than that. There is still context from 2014 up till now, Minsk 1 and 2. Russia tried diplomacy talks then the SMO happened. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago 2008 was Georgia, what are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) "If the situation was entirely different, would this comparison be accurate?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm only asking because of the previous invasion of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about 2014, when the U.S. orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and Crimean residents were overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia, foreshadowing the following decade of low-intensity civil war leading up to the current war? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then would that justify France invading Niger after the Niger coup due to geopolitical reasons? And these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation. Or are you going to freak out when I point out this is how the Sudetenland got annexed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, then the comparison would have been accurate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) I was expecting an attempt at an argument. I mean, criticizing the Ukrainian Communist Party has a "if you're not with us, you're against us" energy to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago Clown permalink fedilink source parent [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Use our emoji :debate-pervert: instead if you can, more accessible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent [–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) If Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, there would have been no war in the first place. The threat of NATO having bases ON the Russian border is why this war is happening. But don't take it from me, take it from this guy Or better yet, how about the CIA? They knew in 2008 that this was THE red line for Russia, then laughed and crossed it anyway, and it played out EXACTLY as their analysts said it would permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there are no NATO bases currently in Ukraine nor was there support for Ukraine in 2008 to repel Russian aggression. So it might have been a strategic worry for Russia, but nothing ever came of it. And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. It's more complicated than that. There is still context from 2014 up till now, Minsk 1 and 2. Russia tried diplomacy talks then the SMO happened. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago 2008 was Georgia, what are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) "If the situation was entirely different, would this comparison be accurate?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm only asking because of the previous invasion of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about 2014, when the U.S. orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and Crimean residents were overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia, foreshadowing the following decade of low-intensity civil war leading up to the current war? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then would that justify France invading Niger after the Niger coup due to geopolitical reasons? And these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation. Or are you going to freak out when I point out this is how the Sudetenland got annexed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) I was expecting an attempt at an argument. I mean, criticizing the Ukrainian Communist Party has a "if you're not with us, you're against us" energy to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago Clown permalink fedilink source parent [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Use our emoji :debate-pervert: instead if you can, more accessible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[+] HobbitFoot -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) I was expecting an attempt at an argument. I mean, criticizing the Ukrainian Communist Party has a "if you're not with us, you're against us" energy to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago Clown permalink fedilink source parent [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Use our emoji :debate-pervert: instead if you can, more accessible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Use our emoji :debate-pervert: instead if you can, more accessible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Use our emoji :debate-pervert: instead if you can, more accessible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you’re on the Lemmy website, type it in manually instead of using the emoji picker If you’re on an app, I don’t know — I don’t use them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks correct on Hexbear, but those aren’t Lemmygrad emotes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, if you want to use Hexbear emotes, it’s probably best to copy them from a Hexbear account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) If Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, there would have been no war in the first place. The threat of NATO having bases ON the Russian border is why this war is happening. But don't take it from me, take it from this guy Or better yet, how about the CIA? They knew in 2008 that this was THE red line for Russia, then laughed and crossed it anyway, and it played out EXACTLY as their analysts said it would permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there are no NATO bases currently in Ukraine nor was there support for Ukraine in 2008 to repel Russian aggression. So it might have been a strategic worry for Russia, but nothing ever came of it. And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. It's more complicated than that. There is still context from 2014 up till now, Minsk 1 and 2. Russia tried diplomacy talks then the SMO happened. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago 2008 was Georgia, what are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] HobbitFoot -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there are no NATO bases currently in Ukraine nor was there support for Ukraine in 2008 to repel Russian aggression. So it might have been a strategic worry for Russia, but nothing ever came of it. And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. It's more complicated than that. There is still context from 2014 up till now, Minsk 1 and 2. Russia tried diplomacy talks then the SMO happened. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago 2008 was Georgia, what are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it. It's more complicated than that. There is still context from 2014 up till now, Minsk 1 and 2. Russia tried diplomacy talks then the SMO happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago 2008 was Georgia, what are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) "If the situation was entirely different, would this comparison be accurate?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm only asking because of the previous invasion of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about 2014, when the U.S. orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and Crimean residents were overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia, foreshadowing the following decade of low-intensity civil war leading up to the current war? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then would that justify France invading Niger after the Niger coup due to geopolitical reasons? And these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation. Or are you going to freak out when I point out this is how the Sudetenland got annexed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HobbitFoot -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm only asking because of the previous invasion of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about 2014, when the U.S. orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and Crimean residents were overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia, foreshadowing the following decade of low-intensity civil war leading up to the current war? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then would that justify France invading Niger after the Niger coup due to geopolitical reasons? And these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation. Or are you going to freak out when I point out this is how the Sudetenland got annexed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about 2014, when the U.S. orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and Crimean residents were overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia, foreshadowing the following decade of low-intensity civil war leading up to the current war? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then would that justify France invading Niger after the Niger coup due to geopolitical reasons? And these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation. Or are you going to freak out when I point out this is how the Sudetenland got annexed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HobbitFoot -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then would that justify France invading Niger after the Niger coup due to geopolitical reasons? And these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation. Or are you going to freak out when I point out this is how the Sudetenland got annexed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago Are Nigeriens in favour of joining France? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* Is Niger right next door to France? Did the most powerful country on the planet, that has been trying to destroy France for a century, instigate that coup, start arming up the Nigerien military, and then intimate that Niger would be allowed to join its aggressive military alliance? Do Nigeriens want to join France? these votes only seem to happen immediately after an invasion without any international observation You're right to be skeptical. However, look at things like the shared political history of Russia and Crimea (both in the USSR longer than modern Ukraine has existed), the disagreeements between Crimea and Ukraine dating back to the 90s, the presence of ethnic Russians in the region, the absence of violence before or after the annexation, and the separatist movements in parts of Ukraine that also have large ethnic Russian populations. Nothing about the situation -- other than western propaganda -- suggests Russia is there against the will of the people. permalink fedilink source parent