▲ 272 ▼ Senator Tuberville: No truce over military blockade on abortion (www.bbc.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/news@lemmy.world 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments Military leaders claim Tommy Tuberville's actions are a national security risk, but the senator is defiant.
[+] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Working around the GOP's bullshit is a short-term solution. They need to be permanently removed from power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zamotic@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then we need to do the short term solution while we work on the long term solution. I'm kind of sick of one side trying to keep it a fair fight. GOP politicians have all shown they don't care about that and will employ any means necessary to get their policies enacted while doing everything they can to disrupt the policies on the other side permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I agree, shorr-term and long-term solutions are both important. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do the same at VAs The problem with that is that it may have been legal at the place it was done, but states would absolutely place police next door to wait for those women to come out. They already have laws that criminalize women who go out of state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) How is that legal? I thought states can only enforce laws that are broken in their own jurisdiction? Interstate would make it a federal matter, no? (In regards to women going out of state) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago It's almost certainly unconstitutional, but there's not specific case law so it has to be litigated to know for sure. So there needs to be people charged who have the means and willingness to go through several years of trials and appeals. And they have to maintain that motivation for a long time - some cases drag on for a decade or longer. The point isn't to make it illegal forever, it's to scare people and organizations without the resources to engage in a legal fight to stop supporting interstate care for the next three or five or ten years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Working around the GOP's bullshit is a short-term solution. They need to be permanently removed from power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zamotic@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then we need to do the short term solution while we work on the long term solution. I'm kind of sick of one side trying to keep it a fair fight. GOP politicians have all shown they don't care about that and will employ any means necessary to get their policies enacted while doing everything they can to disrupt the policies on the other side permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I agree, shorr-term and long-term solutions are both important. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zamotic@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then we need to do the short term solution while we work on the long term solution. I'm kind of sick of one side trying to keep it a fair fight. GOP politicians have all shown they don't care about that and will employ any means necessary to get their policies enacted while doing everything they can to disrupt the policies on the other side permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I agree, shorr-term and long-term solutions are both important. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I agree, shorr-term and long-term solutions are both important. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do the same at VAs The problem with that is that it may have been legal at the place it was done, but states would absolutely place police next door to wait for those women to come out. They already have laws that criminalize women who go out of state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) How is that legal? I thought states can only enforce laws that are broken in their own jurisdiction? Interstate would make it a federal matter, no? (In regards to women going out of state) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago It's almost certainly unconstitutional, but there's not specific case law so it has to be litigated to know for sure. So there needs to be people charged who have the means and willingness to go through several years of trials and appeals. And they have to maintain that motivation for a long time - some cases drag on for a decade or longer. The point isn't to make it illegal forever, it's to scare people and organizations without the resources to engage in a legal fight to stop supporting interstate care for the next three or five or ten years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) How is that legal? I thought states can only enforce laws that are broken in their own jurisdiction? Interstate would make it a federal matter, no? (In regards to women going out of state) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago It's almost certainly unconstitutional, but there's not specific case law so it has to be litigated to know for sure. So there needs to be people charged who have the means and willingness to go through several years of trials and appeals. And they have to maintain that motivation for a long time - some cases drag on for a decade or longer. The point isn't to make it illegal forever, it's to scare people and organizations without the resources to engage in a legal fight to stop supporting interstate care for the next three or five or ten years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago It's almost certainly unconstitutional, but there's not specific case law so it has to be litigated to know for sure. So there needs to be people charged who have the means and willingness to go through several years of trials and appeals. And they have to maintain that motivation for a long time - some cases drag on for a decade or longer. The point isn't to make it illegal forever, it's to scare people and organizations without the resources to engage in a legal fight to stop supporting interstate care for the next three or five or ten years. permalink fedilink source parent