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I think this might be the same person who did this last time, it's very close to where I saw the last one. Which the city dealt with in a matter of days from when I saw it, so maybe this particular canvas of street art will also get cleaned/painted over.

(I'm not against street art - I'm rather fond of some of the prettier examples of it as an art form, and tagging is an interesting form of self expression - I just said that in that I'm curious how long it will take the city to do something about this tag, since the previous one I found on City property also caused it and nearby graffiti to be quickly cleaned when previously ignored, and graffiti on a trash receptacle is the ultimate "not worth cleaning".)


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[–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

an infinitely wide category is a useless category. When we write our names on a "Get Well Soon!" card for a coworker we are not, as a baseline, doing art and if you insist that's automatically art 100% of the time i think it's impossible to have a discussion about art with you and suspect you of lying about not having fences.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You know that the "Get Well Soon" example of yours is not by any metric a fair or equivalent comparison. You are the one insisting that I do not have fences; I simply stated that art is a process, and all parts of that process constitute art. Tagging is part of the developmental process of the art form we are discussing known as street art. We are not discussing greeting card art, and it's reasonable to state that when you sign a greeting card you purchased, it is not the same in any respect to what we're actually discussing. Most people who have even a passing interest in street art would agree that tagging represents street art in its most elemental form. This idea that you can look at text in this context and somehow delineate between art and not art simply based on the stylistic choices made by the tagger is frankly absurd. What you are commenting about, the way the text is written, the "normal ass letters" clearly is consistent in a way that constitutes what is called a "handstyle" within the context of street art and tagging. I don't claim to know everything about street art, but I do understand that the context this stuff exists in is far more complex than what you're giving it credit for. I also understand its context historically in a broad sense. Tagging is a form of art, and it is the embryo of larger, more complicated works and a way to enter into an underground street art scene. Not every person who writes a tag on a dumpster seeks to be a street artist, but every street artist was once someone scrawling tags on a dumpster.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    my point is, plain writing isn't art by default. and i've never bought one of those cards, it comes out of petty cash or something

    children practicing writing the letter O aren't doing art unless they get distracted and start doodling, even though the dexterity you develop when learning how to write is a building block for future endeavors.

    but every street artist was once someone scrawling tags on a dumpster.

    statistically this must be untrue.

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