(Preferably with sources)

I've overcorrected from "China bad" to "China is infallible." I know that's incorrect, but it's hard to decipher US propaganda from actual issues.

In discussions in the past, providing a positive counterpoint is plenty, but since more folks are already realizing the narrative about China is incorrect I would like to have more nuanced discussions where I can present both praise and criticism. I think it's also important that we don't end up in a USSR situation where Communism is synonymous with the actions of a single country.

  • I know they're trading with the genocidal zionist entity. Even if their policy is to be apolitical, that's very bad.
  • I'm unsure of what the internal restrictions look like in general
  • I saw that the "social credit score" was a small experiment in one province that got way overblown
  • Great firewall...? I know it's a thing, iiuc you can use a VPN to get around it, but only ones provided by the state (which could easily backdoor them)?
  • Limitations on speech? Do people get disappeared?
  • Are they monitoring everyone? "You can't monitor 1.5 billion people" idk computers are pretty fast. Also you can def use big data to find the people you do need to monitor more closely
  • Dengism? Reintroducing capitalism looks like a retreat at face value and has the obvious problems of capitalism, but I saw someone on here talking about it being a genius way of deindustrializing capitalist nations while building China's own capacity

Are there others? I'm happy if you also include justification for their policies, but I do want to know where you genuinely think they're making mistakes.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

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[–] 18 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Poor working conditions for many workers. Long hours, low pay, often dangerous conditions etc.

Still have a wealthy capital owning class.

Crackdowns on non approved religions - not religious myself but I think people should be free to worship how they please (within reason - no human sacrifice lol).

Chinese foreign policy is often disappointing. But I don’t have any experience of navigating the global stage as China so I guess I’ll leave that to the experts I.e. the Chinese.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Crackdowns on non approved religions - not religious myself but I think people should be free to worship how they please (within reason - no human sacrifice lol).

    What have they cracked down on that isn't a cult like falun gong

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    iirc christian missionaries, but those guys are lucky they don't get the north sentinel island treatment everywhere they try to go.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Crackdowns on non approved religions - not religious myself but I think people should be free to worship how they please (within reason - no human sacrifice lol).

    This is unironically a good thing. Separation of church and state is libshit invented by slaveowners. The church has to be subservient to the state. Any church who does not toe the socialist line and uphold the socialist project must be unceremoniously dismantled.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    not religious myself but I think people should be free to worship how they please

    Afaik that's already the case, you can find different sorts of religious buildings in China, including Christian Churches. You can even read whatever "holy text" or "holy book" you want in public as long as you're not preaching in public spaces, which is something I wish would happen here in Brasil. Evangelics/Protestants love do public preaching and when not doing it in public, are as loud as possible in their churches, which I can only guess is an actual tactic.

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