I prefer the off lease commercial thinkpads too, but I am glad someone is actually creating new stuff for that market. The used thinkpad market can't grow.

Great, now can you change the GPU? Add another usb-c port? Add a 3.5mm port?

Not the screen, but it would be nice if I could replace the keyboard on my laptop, since it doesn't work properly any more.

But since it's built into the lower body, it costs about as much to replace as the device is worth, since I'd be replacing a big piece of the casing, so I just make do with also carrying a Bluetooth keyboard.

People that are here.

To me the point of framework is that it can reliably endure amateur (aka me) repair.

I have repaired a fair amount of device in my life, companies without a focus on repair will have fragile cabel and components. And everytime I open it up, there would be a high chance of me breaking something, forcing me to use a broken device after that.

Repair and cleaning will need to happen every two or three years for most electronics, and that usually means I will live with a corky device for the next two years, then produce a bunch of ewastes consists of mostly perfectly functioning parts, with one failed critical component (most of the time, said component has not even failed, just significantly worn).

Me which is why I bought one, and several of the people who have seen me work with mine now want one for these reasons too. If my screen (or any component) craps out it is super easy to replace with minimal e-waste. Once I'm out of school and into the workforce I'm going to buy one of the GPUs probably a used one further reducing e-waste. If I want more storage space it takes like 5 minutes to swap a drive out. Love the thing