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NATO is failing in Ukraine (thepeacemonger.substack.com)
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[-] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

my country (finland) is taking a shit ton of debt and destroying the welfare state to fund this stupid shit

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Governments all over the world are destroying welfare. Just never for the imaginary reasons they talk about but because those corrupt fucks want to destroy welfare for their rich buddies benefiting of more dependent workers and lower wages and the populations are finally brain-damaged enough that they can away with their lies.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 hours ago

Also putting itself on a list of nuclear targets for no rational reason.

[-] naeap@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 hours ago

At least theoretically, those are mostly loans to Ukraine and not gifted money, isn't it?

I know, it's hard now, some people even in Austria are complaining, but we're keeping the war away with that

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

but we’re keeping the war away with that

classic

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

You're actually doing the exact opposite because it's looking increasingly likely that Russia will retaliate directly against Europe for the deep strikes into Russia.

[-] viertesauge@feddit.org -3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

If by this stupid shit you mean finlands own defence (because that is where the majority of the spending goes to, not ukraine) then i guess thats that. Its not like you are bordering any countries that have started any armed conflicts with their neigbouring states since the 2000s and its not like you have any historic conflicts and contested territories with any country. You should rightfully protest the dismantling of the welfare state and the money should come from rich tax evaders like it should anywhere else. Its not a choice between welfare state and increased defence spending. You can have both

[-] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago

the amount of arms finland has directly donated covers unemployment benefits for 354 000 people for a year.

there are 325 000 unemployed job seekers right now and finland's population is 5.7 million people.

[-] viertesauge@feddit.org -4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

like i said. you dont have to choose between welfare state and defense and you have every right to hold your gouvernment accountable for pretending that you have to choose.

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