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If he's effectively brain dead he could be on a ventilator. Some 1-in-a-million chance of recovery that they're using to keep him 'alive' to hold the seat
I would hope they're trying to keep him alive because he is a human being and that is how you treat other human beings, regardless of who they are or what their opinions are.
No, it would be cruel to keep someone technically alive on a ventilator past hope of their revival. And I say this as someone whose dad died after being removed from a ventilator during the COVID-19 pandemic. My mother refused to allow him to die on their wedding anniversary and so he was kept alive an extra day, which I still find selfish and cruel.
You benefit the Jeffrey Epstein Class when you bring this nonsense talk about saving absolutely every single human being in the world. I used to be in your position a few years ago, but I already learnt that killing evil is an OBLIGATION even the Christian Bible encourages everyone to have in mind.
The Jeffrey Epstein Class monopolized violence. They allow themselves to kill millions of people just like you with a fat smile on their faces. They successfully convinced you that killing "is an absolute wrong that should never be done," but they're wrong. Our bodies, our cells, they are constantly making DNA errors. Those cells with a damaged DNA have to kill themselves with Apoptosis, otherwise, the immune system does it, it goes and kills it. Why? Because if they allow it to continue, it'll divide uncontrollable, creating a tumor that only leeches off our body and slowly kills it in a very painful and slow way. The planet Earth, or Humanity, is no different to a human body. If Nazis won and became the influence of the world, Humanity would probably be such a racist, intolerant and disgusting race that eradicated certain cultures entirely, Jews being one of them, and I hate Zionists, but what about you?
You rather keep protecting those cancers that are killing millions of innocent people with their actions, decisions and even hands? You think it's worth for Humanity to waste so much time and innocent lives to "save" those irredeemable monsters? Why? Why do you want us to pay millions of innocent lives just to save an old asshole that has nothing creative, fun or worthwhile to share anymore? No art, no personality, nothing of real value to us. He only brought pain, suffering, injustice, and so much death and destruction.
You are not morally superior NOR responsible for this stance you carry. You're actually evil for protecting those monsters. People like you have never faced true evil in their lives, this is why it's so easy for you to speak like this. You don't look wise, superior or like a divine entity if you forgave your daughter's killer or rapist, or a man who killed your entire family while laughing, and celebrated it for decades. Nah, you're just a naive child or something equally ignorant that is only going to slow down Humanity's growth.
Chill out, you know nothing about me; show some respect.
I'm just saying that hoping someone in a hospital bed dies is not nice. Does it make a big difference whether he dies or survives for you Jeffrey Epstein class?
This color of yours is so fucking disgusting, weak and cowardly, I am not interested in meeting you anymore. You are someone who benefits pedophiles and killers in power.
They look at you with a smile right now. "Look at this guy. Defending us. We need more people like him discouraging everyone from ever touching us, so we can continue putting our dicks inside these poor little girls we kidnapped, in peace and harmony. So we can continue passing laws that leech more money off the working class, essentially forcing them to live in a "luxurious jail:" their own home, with the bare minimum nutrition and entertainment possible so they don't revolt and we keep making a profit we use to hire more bodyguards that will give their lives for ours. And people like ranzispa, who do an amazing job at convincing people that killing us is wrong. Oh wait, I came inside this little girl, popped her cherry just like Trump and I, Jeffrey Epstein, did to Katie Johnson, but at least we did not sent her to get her head blown with a bullet and then buried like most girls! We can have a heart too! We can be human, trust us!"
Listen, you dumbfuck. Have you ever read at least the words of the victims in your life? Have you for example, at least read Katie Johnson's lawsuit against Donald and Jeffrey? The things they did to her? Here, have a glimpse of the shit you are helping protect and defend, you disgusting monster:
This is not even the tip of the iceberg. This is still "soft and light" compared to other shit they have done. You deserve no respect, only humiliation for showing so much passion for such a dumbass idea like "we should not kill evil." Fuck off. You are a demon in disguise. The only shit that can redeem you right now is if you at least change your idea to "they are still human, victims of the randomness and cruelty of this universe, but that doesn't mean we must tolerate them. They must go to jail, permanently." If you're so afraid of killing, at least jail them permanently, which is essentially the same shit. It's torture in a tiny ass room, isolation, cockroaches right next to you, the toilet too, the smell, everything is shit in jail, you know that, but it is what they deserve.
I don't know what you're talking about. If you ever spoke to me that way I would punch you. Please refrain talking on the internet in ways you wouldn't do in person.
Are you mentally challenged or something? You defend evil demons by discouraging everybody from killing them. Period.
You are not morally superior or responsible for carrying an idea like "killing is always bad." That's fucking naive shit. And shut the fuck up about punching me you clown, you already proved to be a little bitch who cannot punish a massive pedophile, rapist or killer like Trump or Jeffrey. Like, shut the fuck up, I speak like this in person to people like you, because they fucking deserve it. That included my cousin, who became a Trump supporter just because he promised him bitcoin would raise in price. He lowkey sold us, his family, friends and country, Mexico, for less than 50,000$ MXN pesos, not even 3 months of rent; shit he could make in one month because he graduated as a doctor in ITESM, but no, thanks to Capitalism and the people in power, also he doesn't have the incentive or opportunities to build a decent life.
Yet, here you are, trying to convince us to adapt to these absolute shitty conditions and system instead of doing anything about it like EATING THE RICH. Shut the fuck up and EAT DIRT.
I'm afraid you're an idiot, I hope you get better and learn to talk with people.
So you're an actual Jeffrey Epstein Class supporter. Not only are you an idiot, you are an evil piece of shit that is no longer human.
Goodluck convincing people of listening to you. They won't.
Sorry, I am a human. Nothing I can do about that except killing myself, and I have no intention of killing myself.
Go on and show everyone you're still redeemable, tell us these monsters AT LEAST deserve to go to jail PERMANENTLY. Go on, read this. This is only a tiny piece of what happens in the darkest corners of Humanity. If you knew how worse it is among the poorest corners, the most violent ones, those involved with Mafias. Ever seen the videos? I once saw some Narcos who had a father and son on their knees, in front of the camera. At their sides, you'd see two narcos dressed like your typical American Military Soldier, holding machetes. They started with the father, while taunting the son, who was probably 14 years old judging by his voice and appearance. "Look at what you did. It's all his fault. Look at what you did. He deserved it you dumb fucking son of a bitch" and so on while they were literally chopping the neck of his father, and the kid wouldn't stop crying and screaming. Then they beheaded the child, laid their heads on top of the corpses, and that was it. That was the end of those two. That's the type of shit I had to see and hear about almost daily during the early 2010s when the Narco wars exploded. All thanks to America pouring guns and blood money to them. This shit keeps us scared, which makes us work for cheap wages. We are cheap labor when desperate and afraid, that's why American leaders keep us like this. 30,000+ Mexicans die every year to violence like this, homicides, guns and torture. The USA is not that far from us, with 20,000+ deaths every year. Thousands of deaths you never read or hear about. They were too poor to be heard.
That's what you want to continue happening, no? You don't want us to defend ourselves, because you want the elite to continue killing us for money and entertainment, no? That's what you are. You just want innocent people to continue dying, no? Or what? Why are you trying to guilt-trip us for wanting to kill such demons? What the fuck is wrong with you? You think we don't feel bad or sad deep, and I mean, very deep inside because they WERE humans too? Little babies and kids who probably had some crazy traumas? We already know all that shit, dog. We spent decades tolerating and trying to save that light, but we keep being stomped and exploited. Shit has done nothing but gotten worse everywhere.
Why the fuck don't you want Humanity to defend itself?
Here is the entire document of Katie Johnson describing the shit Trump and Jeffrey did to her. Remember, she's just one girl of hundreds. And they are just 2 powerful pedophiles out of hundreds, nah, thousands actually. Tell us why shouldn't we storm their homes and take everything they have so we can give it to more humane and responsible people, eh? Better have a good answer, because this stance you're taking, it is not going to convince an angry mob of sparing you.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-flsd-9_08-cv-80804/pdf/USCOURTS-flsd-9_08-cv-80804-0.pdf
This shit SHOULD BE making you angry to the point of wanting to choke these monsters with your own hands. If it is not, it means you don't really care about people or saving Humanity. I don't care if you're super religious and whatever; even the Bible encourages us to punish these demons asap. You're not doing this for morality or divinity; I wonder if you're doing it because you do actually support the Jeffrey Epstein Class deep down.
I think the issue might be that the voices of all the innocents that died unjustly throughout History are not screaming loud enough for your consciousness to hear them yet. But don't worry, though. There's a lot of people who will happily do it for you. They will happily remind you of their pain and continue doing so until you finally change for the better.
Never said the opposite
Mitch McConnell is not a human being.
There were times people were saying it was ok to enslave black and gays because they were not human beings. Do you want to steep down to their level?
You're barking up the wrong tree pal. You might as well be asking me to show some sympathy for Hitler or his family.
I hope he died scared and alone and that it was painful.
I have that user tagged as a troll, and they seem to always live up to it
He has a point, just not with the turtle man. He's a piece of shit who deserves pain.
Yup, Mitch was a political powerhouse who used that power to cause untold suffering through greed. I think everyone deserves to be treated as a human until they've shown they don't treat others that way. Then they should be treated like an invasive species.
I'll correct this: I state my opinions which are often different from what the polarized US population will accept.
Here I'm just stating it is immoral to cheer for someone to die.
If that looks like trolling to you, and I'm not christian, remember what Jesus preached.
i actually think morality is a lot more complex than you give it credit for.
i also think your boring views are much more popular than you want to admit.
I believe the idea I'm expressing is quite widespread.
what is that idea? what are you trying to say?
Valid wish, he is still human. I forgot where I read it, but there was a saying going like: "Nazis are human, one must never forget that. Such terrible humans that I am ready to bash their skulls in, but humans nonetheless."
Fair point. Someone else responded more logically further down with what equates to my own beliefs.
I'm just sick of the summer-child mentality that says we have to police our emotions to protect the feelings of the worst of us.
If you dont want to piss on a dead man's grave that's cool, but you dont need to be here while I unzip.
Also valid. I also don't like this "you gotta take the high road" approach, but I am absolutely allergic to dehumanization.
So, piss away, friend :)
I hope you're joking, frankly I don't even know who we're talking about, but recognizing someone is a human being is a basic human right.
If you want to go against all moral conventions by all means do that, but don't expect anyone to sustain you.
This is not showing sympathy for Hitler, this would be saying Hitler was already sick and dying and still feeling happy about him dying anyway. Have a little compassion for your fellow humans.
See, I knew you didnt know who he was. I dont have the time to educate you on the two decades of racist, manipulative, and evil shit that this man did in congress (or just how gleefully he did it all) but if you want just one person to blame for the state of the world you can look to Mitch McConnell and find at least 6 ways he made it all possible.
I will celebrate his death.
McConnell helped put the most racist ass black man in the Supreme Court seat of a civil rights legend and thats just the cherry of fuckery he's responsible for.
Fuck high ground morality.
I do not care, it can be the most despicable person and I'd hope something happens so that he stops doing despicable things, not his death. I am not happy of a person dies, as much as I could hate such a person. What you wrote is a really terrible message, I hope that is not your actual opinion. If that is the case, have a coffe and think about it; smoke a joint or take some psychedelics, those tend to help connect with humanity.
You don't understand that the level of evil a person lick McConnell is separates them from humanity and the rights included. As far as I'm concerned, his disregard of others human rights negates his own. You're literally cheering for Hitler to get better.
Nope, I'm just not cheering for Hitler to die.
Sad
Cheering for people to die seems more sad to me; you do you.
Welp, That really explains it.
Also your response to the Hitler analogy is hilarious, you can’t seriously die on that hill. When it’s Hitler, or Mitch McConnell, or Charlie Kirk, liberals love to say “nobody should ever die, you’re evil for thinking that!” While you probably champion the murder of communists like Che Guevara because “that’s a real evil ideology”. Even for others like Ghadaffi or Bin Laden, I bet you were real happy when those deaths happened. I’ve read it all before from you guys, your political analysis starts and ends at “leftists are the absolute violent evil and we should capitulate to right wing extremism like Candace Owen’s and Charlie Kirk because authoritarianism totalitarianism violent rhetoric antifa blah blah blah”. don’t even get me started on a certain healthcare CEO.
Regardless of the communist argument; It’s a good thing when fascists die. When Trump does, it’ll be a good day for everyone except for you. Lol
I'm afraid you're very much mistaken regarding my political ideology. I don't know why you brought political ideology into a conversation about basic human rights, morals and compassion. Since you appear really interested in it, rather than going in depth regarding my opinion on several topics I'll just say that last elections in my country I voted the communist party.
I assume you're from the US, since you use the expression liberal to refer to right leaning ideologies. If that is the case, be advised that I consider the whole spectrum of US politics to be on the far right. Bernie Sanders is more or less as far right as Giorgia Meloni Is.
Now that we got that out of the way, no I don't like that Charlie Kirk was killed; despite not knowing who he was until he was killed. My country was allied with Gaddafi and I really despise that we helped in killing him.
I really despise your current president, but I'd be satisfied with him not being president anymore; I do not wish his premature death.
Please, reconsider the way you express yourself to other people and the anger you transmit. It is not necessary.
You must not understand materialism, or Marxism, or politics at all, then. These people whose lives you want to protect will kill you for less than a dollar.
if certain people pass away today, the world literally becomes a better place. Singular people uphold systems that would cease almost immediately if they were to pass.
Hitler is a great example of a man who literally should have died earlier and for some reason you just reallllyyyyy want to show you’re better than everyone by saying you wouldn’t want him to die. The world would have been better off he died earlier. Millions of people wouldn’t have lost their lives.
That’s not sanctity of life at all, that’s just being ignorant. It’s ok if people die. Everyone will die. Sometimes it’s good.
You’re telling me you wouldn’t even feel a little feeling of relief if you were alive during WW2 and you heard Hitler was dead?
No, I did not say that. I would indeed have felt relieved.
The man is already in a coma in a hospital bed and people is wishing him death, is he so dangerous in his coma that you should wish him to die?
Agreed, but it is not ok to wish death on people in my opinion. I do see a difference between people dying and wishing them death.
There's a difference with I hope Nazi Germany stops being Nazi and Hitler loses power and saying I want Hitler to die. The way in which Hitler loses power might as well be his death, but that is not the only way. In the same way, there are ways in which Hitler could have died but Nazi Germany persisted.
As a matter of fact Hitler did not lose power because he died, he died because he lost power.
Alright, now speaking morally, what if Senator McConnell is in a position where he can not consent to being a senator, or consent to remaining alive because he cannot speak and/or is literally brain dead? Because now, if you really care for Mitch: we have to have the conversation of is he in too much pain/suffering by being kept alive? Because then people wishing him death may actually be what he wants.
Seriously, edgy joke stuff aside I know that obviously people aren’t wishing him death because they feel bad for his pain. But to me, depending on his condition, it could be more mean spirited to say that you hope he lives because he’s in pain. Which, regardless of your opinion on if Mitch deserves it, is way worse than just dying quickly. I wouldn’t wish comatose torture against their will on my worst enemy.
My grandmother died this year. She was 94. 3-4 years ago she was walking around (with help usually), enjoyed seeing her kids and grandkids etc, still had Alzheimer’s but she would always love seeing her family and doing things. Last year or so, not so much. Apparently it was very hard for her to visit anyone even in a bed (hospice) and she struggled staying awake her injuries like in her knees never stopped getting worse and the Alzheimer’s obviously… It was time for her to get some peace when she left. It’s ok.
I say it in an edgy teehee funny way; but in all good-faith seriousness: It may be time for Mitch to go. It’s ok my friend. Let him go. He’s hurting
we are Charlie KIRRRRRRRK WE CARRY THE FLAME
By keeping them alive in old age and illness? There are things worse than death, and I have seen some of these things. If Mitch truly is in a one in a million type coma the only reasons he's being kept alive are wealth and status, not humanity.
Eutanasia should be a choice. Him being kept alive is what should happen to any person unless they deliberately stated they do not want to. It does not take wealth to be kept alive, or at least it should not. I guess in the US it is expensive to be kept alive, but I'm pretty sure even there they wouldn't let you die just because you don't have money.
In a coma you can't make such a choice. It's a minority that have advance directives and often the ones kept alive are those with no one that cares enough about them to act mercifully.
Lmao downvoted for having empathy for another human is crazy.