▲ 880 ▼ If Europe has started experiencing over 40°C heatwaves frequently, then this planet really is fucked (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 months ago by laurenceOfSuburbia@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world 305 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (4 children) where are these americans saying "we're ok because we have AC"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] treesapx@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 child) It's been the defining sentiment to the story when discussed in the US. The GOP has taken to the rhetoric of comparing heat deaths in Europe to gun deaths in US, as in Europe is being far more irresponsible not installing AC than US is not controlling guns (their words). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@infosec.pub -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Magaites with ac are in for a treat when winter eventually arrives permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Forester@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) This comment makes no sense. Am American am not maga but just FYI a/c also means central heating we have them bundled in 99% of buildings. If you are referring to the Texans who froze to death.... They had heat just no electricity to run the heaters due to the transmission lines being down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 0x0@infosec.pub -6 points 2 months ago* Dont worry youll figure it out eventually permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago (1 child) Mostly MAGA looking to literally die on that hill, (or expect thier grandchildren to) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago (3 children) I spent three hours convincing a couple MAGAs on nextdoor that global warming is real and we've known for nearly 100 years. Had to go into remedial science mode and explain why greenhouse gasses trap heat in, complete with videos showing CO2 experiments like they do in high school. One guy begrudgingly agreed but the second guy was shook. I think he started coming to terms with the fact he's blindly believed lies and started questioning other "truths". There may be hope, but he might've just turned Fox on after and stuck his head back into the sand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Changing worldviews is hard. I was raised on a steady diet of fox news. When I finally became traveled enough to realize it was bullshit, I had to come to dozens of separate now seemingly obvious conclusions before i had a half-decent picture. Even CNN, ABC, CBS have their own stuff to sell. The media is a business, and it sells. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago I was raised on Fox as well, was even a founding member of my schools young conservative club. Global warming was actually one of the topics that broke me free of that bullshit mindset. I told a few friends global warming was bullshit and they were like "bro you're dumb, here's how we know it's real." I understood enough science to get it was happening as well as the implications. That got me questioning everything the news said, which had me coming to those same realizations you did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I'd love to believe you convinced people on Next Door of anything. I usually only troll there. Place is a cesspool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago That it is. I've never actually had much traction getting them to listen, it's usually just them going silent after providing data/info to back my stance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BenevolentOne@infosec.pub 1 point 2 months ago Easier to start with the plain truth, something you can see with your own eyes, and work your way to the subtler arguments. https://archive.org/details/earth_not_a_globe_review_1893-1897_201804/mode/1up permalink fedilink source parent [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago All over the frontpage last week. https://lemmy.today/post/55740469 permalink fedilink source parent [–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child) The truth is a lot (probably most) of Americans don't have AC. It wasn't really needed in most places until a few years ago. A lot of people rent and a lot of states don't legally require AC in a rental. Because of that landlords refuse to install AC. If states started requiring it things would look a lot different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] droans@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Nearly every state mandates AC. I haven't seen a home in the US without it in nearly thirty years. I know the Northwest and Alaska are special but nearly every other home has it - according to the EIA, about 90% of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 child) It's been the defining sentiment to the story when discussed in the US. The GOP has taken to the rhetoric of comparing heat deaths in Europe to gun deaths in US, as in Europe is being far more irresponsible not installing AC than US is not controlling guns (their words). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@infosec.pub -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Magaites with ac are in for a treat when winter eventually arrives permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Forester@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) This comment makes no sense. Am American am not maga but just FYI a/c also means central heating we have them bundled in 99% of buildings. If you are referring to the Texans who froze to death.... They had heat just no electricity to run the heaters due to the transmission lines being down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 0x0@infosec.pub -6 points 2 months ago* Dont worry youll figure it out eventually permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@infosec.pub -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Magaites with ac are in for a treat when winter eventually arrives permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Forester@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) This comment makes no sense. Am American am not maga but just FYI a/c also means central heating we have them bundled in 99% of buildings. If you are referring to the Texans who froze to death.... They had heat just no electricity to run the heaters due to the transmission lines being down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 0x0@infosec.pub -6 points 2 months ago* Dont worry youll figure it out eventually permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Forester@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) This comment makes no sense. Am American am not maga but just FYI a/c also means central heating we have them bundled in 99% of buildings. If you are referring to the Texans who froze to death.... They had heat just no electricity to run the heaters due to the transmission lines being down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 0x0@infosec.pub -6 points 2 months ago* Dont worry youll figure it out eventually permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 0x0@infosec.pub -6 points 2 months ago* Dont worry youll figure it out eventually permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago (1 child) Mostly MAGA looking to literally die on that hill, (or expect thier grandchildren to) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago (3 children) I spent three hours convincing a couple MAGAs on nextdoor that global warming is real and we've known for nearly 100 years. Had to go into remedial science mode and explain why greenhouse gasses trap heat in, complete with videos showing CO2 experiments like they do in high school. One guy begrudgingly agreed but the second guy was shook. I think he started coming to terms with the fact he's blindly believed lies and started questioning other "truths". There may be hope, but he might've just turned Fox on after and stuck his head back into the sand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Changing worldviews is hard. I was raised on a steady diet of fox news. When I finally became traveled enough to realize it was bullshit, I had to come to dozens of separate now seemingly obvious conclusions before i had a half-decent picture. Even CNN, ABC, CBS have their own stuff to sell. The media is a business, and it sells. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago I was raised on Fox as well, was even a founding member of my schools young conservative club. Global warming was actually one of the topics that broke me free of that bullshit mindset. I told a few friends global warming was bullshit and they were like "bro you're dumb, here's how we know it's real." I understood enough science to get it was happening as well as the implications. That got me questioning everything the news said, which had me coming to those same realizations you did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I'd love to believe you convinced people on Next Door of anything. I usually only troll there. Place is a cesspool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago That it is. I've never actually had much traction getting them to listen, it's usually just them going silent after providing data/info to back my stance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BenevolentOne@infosec.pub 1 point 2 months ago Easier to start with the plain truth, something you can see with your own eyes, and work your way to the subtler arguments. https://archive.org/details/earth_not_a_globe_review_1893-1897_201804/mode/1up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishy@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago (3 children) I spent three hours convincing a couple MAGAs on nextdoor that global warming is real and we've known for nearly 100 years. Had to go into remedial science mode and explain why greenhouse gasses trap heat in, complete with videos showing CO2 experiments like they do in high school. One guy begrudgingly agreed but the second guy was shook. I think he started coming to terms with the fact he's blindly believed lies and started questioning other "truths". There may be hope, but he might've just turned Fox on after and stuck his head back into the sand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Changing worldviews is hard. I was raised on a steady diet of fox news. When I finally became traveled enough to realize it was bullshit, I had to come to dozens of separate now seemingly obvious conclusions before i had a half-decent picture. Even CNN, ABC, CBS have their own stuff to sell. The media is a business, and it sells. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago I was raised on Fox as well, was even a founding member of my schools young conservative club. Global warming was actually one of the topics that broke me free of that bullshit mindset. I told a few friends global warming was bullshit and they were like "bro you're dumb, here's how we know it's real." I understood enough science to get it was happening as well as the implications. That got me questioning everything the news said, which had me coming to those same realizations you did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I'd love to believe you convinced people on Next Door of anything. I usually only troll there. Place is a cesspool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago That it is. I've never actually had much traction getting them to listen, it's usually just them going silent after providing data/info to back my stance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BenevolentOne@infosec.pub 1 point 2 months ago Easier to start with the plain truth, something you can see with your own eyes, and work your way to the subtler arguments. https://archive.org/details/earth_not_a_globe_review_1893-1897_201804/mode/1up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Changing worldviews is hard. I was raised on a steady diet of fox news. When I finally became traveled enough to realize it was bullshit, I had to come to dozens of separate now seemingly obvious conclusions before i had a half-decent picture. Even CNN, ABC, CBS have their own stuff to sell. The media is a business, and it sells. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago I was raised on Fox as well, was even a founding member of my schools young conservative club. Global warming was actually one of the topics that broke me free of that bullshit mindset. I told a few friends global warming was bullshit and they were like "bro you're dumb, here's how we know it's real." I understood enough science to get it was happening as well as the implications. That got me questioning everything the news said, which had me coming to those same realizations you did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago I was raised on Fox as well, was even a founding member of my schools young conservative club. Global warming was actually one of the topics that broke me free of that bullshit mindset. I told a few friends global warming was bullshit and they were like "bro you're dumb, here's how we know it's real." I understood enough science to get it was happening as well as the implications. That got me questioning everything the news said, which had me coming to those same realizations you did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I'd love to believe you convinced people on Next Door of anything. I usually only troll there. Place is a cesspool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago That it is. I've never actually had much traction getting them to listen, it's usually just them going silent after providing data/info to back my stance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago That it is. I've never actually had much traction getting them to listen, it's usually just them going silent after providing data/info to back my stance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BenevolentOne@infosec.pub 1 point 2 months ago Easier to start with the plain truth, something you can see with your own eyes, and work your way to the subtler arguments. https://archive.org/details/earth_not_a_globe_review_1893-1897_201804/mode/1up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago All over the frontpage last week. https://lemmy.today/post/55740469 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child) The truth is a lot (probably most) of Americans don't have AC. It wasn't really needed in most places until a few years ago. A lot of people rent and a lot of states don't legally require AC in a rental. Because of that landlords refuse to install AC. If states started requiring it things would look a lot different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] droans@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Nearly every state mandates AC. I haven't seen a home in the US without it in nearly thirty years. I know the Northwest and Alaska are special but nearly every other home has it - according to the EIA, about 90% of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] droans@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Nearly every state mandates AC. I haven't seen a home in the US without it in nearly thirty years. I know the Northwest and Alaska are special but nearly every other home has it - according to the EIA, about 90% of them. permalink fedilink source parent