▲ 139 ▼ There is no propaganda in America (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 month ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/funny@lemmy.ml 62 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago (3 children) You have no idea how people lived there... permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago Yes I do, my family is from there permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child) I literally grew up in USSR fucko permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) I was born in an ex-USSR country. You probably just miss being young, not the actual regime. It was objectively horrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago* (1 child) No, I don't just miss being young. If you think everyone having a guarantee of housing, food, jobs, healthcare, and retirement is terrible then you're frankly a selfish sack of shit. Nobody in USSR worried about losing their job and ending up on the street or not being able to save enough to retire in dignity. These were not the kinds of things people had to worry about while everyone lives under the gun in the wondrous capitalist system. On top of that, the fall of USSR was one of the greatest humanitarian disasters of the 20th century. Countless millions of people had their lives ruined and lost everything, but some parasites got theirs at the expense of everyone else, and now go around telling the rest of us how terrible communism was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) In my country food was rationed, you would wait in endless queues for hours just to get 1/4 of a bread. There was not much other than bread, milk and some vegetables (meat was rare). If you did not have a job, the state would take you and send you to a crazy big project of the state where you would probably die (work camp). If you had different oppinions about politics, you were basically captured, tortured and then killed. Every second neighbour was an informer for the state, no one to trust. Maybe your country was much better, but I can't understant how you can praise that. I love the ideology of socialism, but USSR was a horrible implementation of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah yeah, it's so much better now with seniors living under the bridges and scavenging for food in the trash. Also, it's funny how you ignore the fact that USSR existed under a siege during the entirety of the Cold War right after having been invaded by fascists during the second world war and was not allowed to develop peacefully. Then after USSR fell, the west immediately poured a bunch of money into Poland and the Baltics to prop them up which is where a bit of prosperity some people saw actually came from. Meanwhile, go look at what happened to other republics which weren't of interest to western propaganda. See how people are doing there now. And sure, USSR could have done better in many ways. It was literally the first attempt at building socialism. However, what happened after has demonstrably been a disaster on an unimaginable scale. And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] allende2001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. Same thing for climate change btw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 1 month ago yup, having the capitalist world run unchecked for the past 30 years is how we got our current climate disaster permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 child) No you. You are not immune to anticommunist propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wooferTwo -16 points 1 month ago (1 child) Propaganda like putting people on animal trains and giving them a nice vacation in Siberia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) I suppose they were forced to push the train barefoot, had to eat each other to survive and they were there because they spent ration vouchers on black market for illicit American goods while barely making enough to survive, right? Your anti-communist propaganda is just hilarious, actually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) No. They were not pushing them barefoot. They were in animal carriages though... Taken mostly to Siberia to work for no wages with no rights. Its literally in living memory here... Unless you want to say to that to my grandparents gtfo man... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) Sounds like your grandparents peddled the same stupid fucking bullshit every other bitter anti-communist immigrant launders into the country to seek acceptance from the demonic westerners around them. You want honesty from me? I'd gladly tell 'em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 2 weeks ago You people really seem to like causing suffering to others. Have a great day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago Yes I do, my family is from there permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child) I literally grew up in USSR fucko permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) I was born in an ex-USSR country. You probably just miss being young, not the actual regime. It was objectively horrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago* (1 child) No, I don't just miss being young. If you think everyone having a guarantee of housing, food, jobs, healthcare, and retirement is terrible then you're frankly a selfish sack of shit. Nobody in USSR worried about losing their job and ending up on the street or not being able to save enough to retire in dignity. These were not the kinds of things people had to worry about while everyone lives under the gun in the wondrous capitalist system. On top of that, the fall of USSR was one of the greatest humanitarian disasters of the 20th century. Countless millions of people had their lives ruined and lost everything, but some parasites got theirs at the expense of everyone else, and now go around telling the rest of us how terrible communism was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) In my country food was rationed, you would wait in endless queues for hours just to get 1/4 of a bread. There was not much other than bread, milk and some vegetables (meat was rare). If you did not have a job, the state would take you and send you to a crazy big project of the state where you would probably die (work camp). If you had different oppinions about politics, you were basically captured, tortured and then killed. Every second neighbour was an informer for the state, no one to trust. Maybe your country was much better, but I can't understant how you can praise that. I love the ideology of socialism, but USSR was a horrible implementation of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah yeah, it's so much better now with seniors living under the bridges and scavenging for food in the trash. Also, it's funny how you ignore the fact that USSR existed under a siege during the entirety of the Cold War right after having been invaded by fascists during the second world war and was not allowed to develop peacefully. Then after USSR fell, the west immediately poured a bunch of money into Poland and the Baltics to prop them up which is where a bit of prosperity some people saw actually came from. Meanwhile, go look at what happened to other republics which weren't of interest to western propaganda. See how people are doing there now. And sure, USSR could have done better in many ways. It was literally the first attempt at building socialism. However, what happened after has demonstrably been a disaster on an unimaginable scale. And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] allende2001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. Same thing for climate change btw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 1 month ago yup, having the capitalist world run unchecked for the past 30 years is how we got our current climate disaster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) I was born in an ex-USSR country. You probably just miss being young, not the actual regime. It was objectively horrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago* (1 child) No, I don't just miss being young. If you think everyone having a guarantee of housing, food, jobs, healthcare, and retirement is terrible then you're frankly a selfish sack of shit. Nobody in USSR worried about losing their job and ending up on the street or not being able to save enough to retire in dignity. These were not the kinds of things people had to worry about while everyone lives under the gun in the wondrous capitalist system. On top of that, the fall of USSR was one of the greatest humanitarian disasters of the 20th century. Countless millions of people had their lives ruined and lost everything, but some parasites got theirs at the expense of everyone else, and now go around telling the rest of us how terrible communism was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) In my country food was rationed, you would wait in endless queues for hours just to get 1/4 of a bread. There was not much other than bread, milk and some vegetables (meat was rare). If you did not have a job, the state would take you and send you to a crazy big project of the state where you would probably die (work camp). If you had different oppinions about politics, you were basically captured, tortured and then killed. Every second neighbour was an informer for the state, no one to trust. Maybe your country was much better, but I can't understant how you can praise that. I love the ideology of socialism, but USSR was a horrible implementation of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah yeah, it's so much better now with seniors living under the bridges and scavenging for food in the trash. Also, it's funny how you ignore the fact that USSR existed under a siege during the entirety of the Cold War right after having been invaded by fascists during the second world war and was not allowed to develop peacefully. Then after USSR fell, the west immediately poured a bunch of money into Poland and the Baltics to prop them up which is where a bit of prosperity some people saw actually came from. Meanwhile, go look at what happened to other republics which weren't of interest to western propaganda. See how people are doing there now. And sure, USSR could have done better in many ways. It was literally the first attempt at building socialism. However, what happened after has demonstrably been a disaster on an unimaginable scale. And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] allende2001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. Same thing for climate change btw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 1 month ago yup, having the capitalist world run unchecked for the past 30 years is how we got our current climate disaster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago* (1 child) No, I don't just miss being young. If you think everyone having a guarantee of housing, food, jobs, healthcare, and retirement is terrible then you're frankly a selfish sack of shit. Nobody in USSR worried about losing their job and ending up on the street or not being able to save enough to retire in dignity. These were not the kinds of things people had to worry about while everyone lives under the gun in the wondrous capitalist system. On top of that, the fall of USSR was one of the greatest humanitarian disasters of the 20th century. Countless millions of people had their lives ruined and lost everything, but some parasites got theirs at the expense of everyone else, and now go around telling the rest of us how terrible communism was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) In my country food was rationed, you would wait in endless queues for hours just to get 1/4 of a bread. There was not much other than bread, milk and some vegetables (meat was rare). If you did not have a job, the state would take you and send you to a crazy big project of the state where you would probably die (work camp). If you had different oppinions about politics, you were basically captured, tortured and then killed. Every second neighbour was an informer for the state, no one to trust. Maybe your country was much better, but I can't understant how you can praise that. I love the ideology of socialism, but USSR was a horrible implementation of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah yeah, it's so much better now with seniors living under the bridges and scavenging for food in the trash. Also, it's funny how you ignore the fact that USSR existed under a siege during the entirety of the Cold War right after having been invaded by fascists during the second world war and was not allowed to develop peacefully. Then after USSR fell, the west immediately poured a bunch of money into Poland and the Baltics to prop them up which is where a bit of prosperity some people saw actually came from. Meanwhile, go look at what happened to other republics which weren't of interest to western propaganda. See how people are doing there now. And sure, USSR could have done better in many ways. It was literally the first attempt at building socialism. However, what happened after has demonstrably been a disaster on an unimaginable scale. And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] allende2001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. Same thing for climate change btw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 1 month ago yup, having the capitalist world run unchecked for the past 30 years is how we got our current climate disaster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NebulaNomad@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) In my country food was rationed, you would wait in endless queues for hours just to get 1/4 of a bread. There was not much other than bread, milk and some vegetables (meat was rare). If you did not have a job, the state would take you and send you to a crazy big project of the state where you would probably die (work camp). If you had different oppinions about politics, you were basically captured, tortured and then killed. Every second neighbour was an informer for the state, no one to trust. Maybe your country was much better, but I can't understant how you can praise that. I love the ideology of socialism, but USSR was a horrible implementation of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah yeah, it's so much better now with seniors living under the bridges and scavenging for food in the trash. Also, it's funny how you ignore the fact that USSR existed under a siege during the entirety of the Cold War right after having been invaded by fascists during the second world war and was not allowed to develop peacefully. Then after USSR fell, the west immediately poured a bunch of money into Poland and the Baltics to prop them up which is where a bit of prosperity some people saw actually came from. Meanwhile, go look at what happened to other republics which weren't of interest to western propaganda. See how people are doing there now. And sure, USSR could have done better in many ways. It was literally the first attempt at building socialism. However, what happened after has demonstrably been a disaster on an unimaginable scale. And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] allende2001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. Same thing for climate change btw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 1 month ago yup, having the capitalist world run unchecked for the past 30 years is how we got our current climate disaster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah yeah, it's so much better now with seniors living under the bridges and scavenging for food in the trash. Also, it's funny how you ignore the fact that USSR existed under a siege during the entirety of the Cold War right after having been invaded by fascists during the second world war and was not allowed to develop peacefully. Then after USSR fell, the west immediately poured a bunch of money into Poland and the Baltics to prop them up which is where a bit of prosperity some people saw actually came from. Meanwhile, go look at what happened to other republics which weren't of interest to western propaganda. See how people are doing there now. And sure, USSR could have done better in many ways. It was literally the first attempt at building socialism. However, what happened after has demonstrably been a disaster on an unimaginable scale. And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] allende2001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. Same thing for climate change btw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 1 month ago yup, having the capitalist world run unchecked for the past 30 years is how we got our current climate disaster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] allende2001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And now it might even lead to a third world war and a nuclear holocaust. Same thing for climate change btw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 1 month ago yup, having the capitalist world run unchecked for the past 30 years is how we got our current climate disaster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 1 month ago yup, having the capitalist world run unchecked for the past 30 years is how we got our current climate disaster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 child) No you. You are not immune to anticommunist propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wooferTwo -16 points 1 month ago (1 child) Propaganda like putting people on animal trains and giving them a nice vacation in Siberia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) I suppose they were forced to push the train barefoot, had to eat each other to survive and they were there because they spent ration vouchers on black market for illicit American goods while barely making enough to survive, right? Your anti-communist propaganda is just hilarious, actually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) No. They were not pushing them barefoot. They were in animal carriages though... Taken mostly to Siberia to work for no wages with no rights. Its literally in living memory here... Unless you want to say to that to my grandparents gtfo man... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) Sounds like your grandparents peddled the same stupid fucking bullshit every other bitter anti-communist immigrant launders into the country to seek acceptance from the demonic westerners around them. You want honesty from me? I'd gladly tell 'em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 2 weeks ago You people really seem to like causing suffering to others. Have a great day permalink fedilink source parent
[+] wooferTwo -16 points 1 month ago (1 child) Propaganda like putting people on animal trains and giving them a nice vacation in Siberia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) I suppose they were forced to push the train barefoot, had to eat each other to survive and they were there because they spent ration vouchers on black market for illicit American goods while barely making enough to survive, right? Your anti-communist propaganda is just hilarious, actually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) No. They were not pushing them barefoot. They were in animal carriages though... Taken mostly to Siberia to work for no wages with no rights. Its literally in living memory here... Unless you want to say to that to my grandparents gtfo man... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) Sounds like your grandparents peddled the same stupid fucking bullshit every other bitter anti-communist immigrant launders into the country to seek acceptance from the demonic westerners around them. You want honesty from me? I'd gladly tell 'em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 2 weeks ago You people really seem to like causing suffering to others. Have a great day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) I suppose they were forced to push the train barefoot, had to eat each other to survive and they were there because they spent ration vouchers on black market for illicit American goods while barely making enough to survive, right? Your anti-communist propaganda is just hilarious, actually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) No. They were not pushing them barefoot. They were in animal carriages though... Taken mostly to Siberia to work for no wages with no rights. Its literally in living memory here... Unless you want to say to that to my grandparents gtfo man... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) Sounds like your grandparents peddled the same stupid fucking bullshit every other bitter anti-communist immigrant launders into the country to seek acceptance from the demonic westerners around them. You want honesty from me? I'd gladly tell 'em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 2 weeks ago You people really seem to like causing suffering to others. Have a great day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wooferTwo 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) No. They were not pushing them barefoot. They were in animal carriages though... Taken mostly to Siberia to work for no wages with no rights. Its literally in living memory here... Unless you want to say to that to my grandparents gtfo man... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) Sounds like your grandparents peddled the same stupid fucking bullshit every other bitter anti-communist immigrant launders into the country to seek acceptance from the demonic westerners around them. You want honesty from me? I'd gladly tell 'em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 2 weeks ago You people really seem to like causing suffering to others. Have a great day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) Sounds like your grandparents peddled the same stupid fucking bullshit every other bitter anti-communist immigrant launders into the country to seek acceptance from the demonic westerners around them. You want honesty from me? I'd gladly tell 'em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wooferTwo 1 point 2 weeks ago You people really seem to like causing suffering to others. Have a great day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wooferTwo 1 point 2 weeks ago You people really seem to like causing suffering to others. Have a great day permalink fedilink source parent